CS4 details on Adobe website

I really didn't see anything that would motivate me to upgrade, and I use the entire MC. Does anyone have any thoughts as to how this upgrade is justified (benefit vs. costs)?

"David Powers" wrote:

Even taking local tax (VAT) into account, the price is much higher outside
North America. The explanation given a year ago by Shantanu Narayen, who
is now CEO of Adobe, is that it costs Adobe more to do business outside
the USA.

He's talking nonsense... have it as a download at US prices (+local tax)?
And forget the Irish servers...

Could it be that the rest of the word sales are higher than the US?

I think MS XP cost about the same everywhere... give or take a few depending
on currency variables and local taxes.

I don't see CorelDraw having such a marked difference... nor hardware...

I can understand a magazine... I subscribe to Computer Arts from the UK...
and there's virtually no discount on the stand price for Rest of the
World... subscription would be too low to justify bulk savings in
shipping... but Adobe... and it's not reams of paper?

They're liars and thieves... i can understand regional language versions
costing more but English???

"djinn" <scobies (AT) dsl (DOT) pipexYerKitAff.com> wrote

Bruce BFD wrote:
Maybe it's just me, but I was a bit underwhelmed....

By the price or the software? :-D

Judging from context: he was a bit underwhelmed by the "CS4 details on Adobe
website". :-D


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P@tty Ayers ~ACE wrote:

Judging from context: he was a bit underwhelmed by the "CS4 details on
Adobe website". :-D

Well I wondered if he'd bucked the global economic crisis and was
'underwhelmed' by Adobe's pricing policy :-P


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"John Waller" <johnw (AT) REMOVETHISpinnacleweb (DOT) com.au> wrote

Shipping dates have not yet been announced ...

From the Adobe site: "English language version is expected to ship by late
October 2008."

https://store1.adobe.com/cfusion/sto...&pid=27143 51


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Bruce BFD wrote:

I use MC at work and WP at home. I'm having trouble putting together a
cohesive argument for my boss to pay for the upgrade, and even less for
upgrading my home system. I'm branching into video editing and print at home,
so I'd have to upgrade to MC and the thought of paying $1600 for the features
that I could have upgraded under CS3 for much less makes me less than
enthusiastic.

What do MC and WP stand for?

To me, CS5 sounds like a bigger ripoff than CS4. Which isn't to say I
don't appreciate CS4 - in the IT arena, it's probably the best thing
that ever happened to me next to switching to a Mac. If Adobe is a
pseudo-monopoly, it at least deserves credit for producing quality
software, a far cry from Microsoft.

Still, the price tag is pretty steep for non-professionals - and I feel
bad about the way they keep sticking it to Europeans.

It's amazing that they're maintaining their high prices even as the
economy is spiraling out of control. I can't help but wonder if perhaps
they've gone a little too far. Adobe's pricing strategy is only fueling
a growing resentment, associating Adobe with the dreaded term
"monopoly," not good for public relations. I can only assume it's
fueling the competition, as well.

Then again, it's possible that Adobe sees this as its last opportunity
to make a killing. An economic slump will almost certainly impact their
profits, and it could just be a matter of time before the competition
begins to look a little more credible.

Another interesting thing - when I read about Dreamweaver CS4 a few
weeks/months ago, it sounded awesome. It was described as a truly
radical upgrade. But the articles I read today don't sound that exciting
- or am I missing something?

It also irks me that Adobe is making CS4 64-bit for Windows but not
Apple...even though I don't understand the significance. 64-bit programs
simply process faster, right?

In somewhat related news, the netbook revolution is nicely coordinated
with the economic crisis to exert enormous pressure on hardware vendors
to lower prices. With people buying mini laptops for under $500, they
may be even more reluctant to spend five times that much on a software
suite (even if that suite can't be run on a netbook).

Anyway, there are lots of things happening out there. If the Dreamweaver
upgrade is respectable, I might upgrade that program alone. But I'm
thinking of skipping CS4 and waiting for CS5, which I suspect will be
significantly better thatn CS4 and less expensive at the same time.

In fact, it might be kind of pointless for me to upgrade when I haven't
even learned to use CS4 yet. I'm pretty comfortable with Dreamweaver and
Photoshop, which I've used for years, but it's going to take a while to
learn Illustrator, Fireworks and Flash.

I wish there were more than 24 hours in a day!

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What do MC and WP stand for?

Master Collection and Web Premium.


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John Waller

From the Adobe site: "English language version is expected to ship by late
October 2008."

Thanks Patty. Shipping 4-5 weeks after product announcement is what I
anticipated.

I guess precise dates are still under wraps judging by the existence of this
form:

"Complete the following fields to be notified by e-mail when Adobe® Creative
Suite® 4 products and trials are available."
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/...tify&loc=en_us

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John Waller

John Waller wrote:

What do MC and WP stand for?

Master Collection and Web Premium.

I see. Thanks.

Here is a thought about the price.... maybe (and this is just a wild
stab in the dark) they are trying to price beginners/amateurs out so
that only professionals buy it?

Dooza