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Eric_Lander
 
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Default Counting Length of Title and META Fields - 06-01-2004 , 02:14 PM






I am looking to find out how you can use Dreamweaver 4 to locate all of the
files in a given folder that have HTML title tags over 70 characters in length.
I am also looking to find all files with a META description tag of more than
150 characters.

Anyone have any tips on how to use the Find/Replace tool for this? Are there
other ways?




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Default Re: Counting Length of Title and META Fields - 06-01-2004 , 02:32 PM






Eric:

Can I ask why you want to do this?

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"Eric_Lander" <webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
I am looking to find out how you can use Dreamweaver 4 to locate all of
the
files in a given folder that have HTML title tags over 70 characters in
length.
I am also looking to find all files with a META description tag of more
than
150 characters.

Anyone have any tips on how to use the Find/Replace tool for this? Are
there
other ways?






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Chris In Madison
 
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Default Re: Counting Length of Title and META Fields - 06-01-2004 , 02:56 PM



Saw this on a quick Google search:

http://www.sitesolutions.com/analysis.asp

Might be useful, but not too sure.

Best regards,
Chris



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Default Re: Counting Length of Title and META Fields - 06-01-2004 , 03:09 PM



Murray, we're in the process of optimizing the web site for the better
performance in the search engines. Having title tags and META descriptions
over a certain length can effectively water down the potential a page has. The
site we're working on has excessively long Titles/METAs, so we're looking to
compile a list of URLs we need to modify.


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Murray *TMM*
 
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Default Re: Counting Length of Title and META Fields - 06-01-2004 , 03:22 PM



Eric:

I suspected that was why.

I think you need to read some less dated advice on SE optimization....

Here's a good link - http://www.dreamweaverresources.com/seo/

Meta tags are nearly useless in achieving any rank anymore.

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"Eric_Lander" <webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Murray, we're in the process of optimizing the web site for the better
performance in the search engines. Having title tags and META
descriptions
over a certain length can effectively water down the potential a page has.
The
site we're working on has excessively long Titles/METAs, so we're looking
to
compile a list of URLs we need to modify.




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Eric_Lander
 
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Default Re: Counting Length of Title and META Fields - 06-01-2004 , 04:51 PM



Murray, while I appreciate your comments, I think you may be slightly mistaken
in assuming that my knowledge of SEO is limited. That's not to blow my own
horn, but I do want you to realize that I'm speaking from some degree of
experience here, as well as a reason for asking my question:

http://www.isedb.com/news/author/11
http://www.seotoday.com/browse.php/c...d/48/index.php
http://www.searchengineguide.com/lander/

For specific reference, the Inktomi and Google databases provide listings
(featured across many engines) in a very specific and formatted manner. In the
current format, Google limits the page title's display to 60 characters.
Therefore, having a title much more than 60 would be detrimental. With
Inktomi, the limit is much higher (120 characters are shown), but these pages
need to perform well in all engines, so why have anything much larger than 60
characters?

You may be underestimating the effectiveness of a well written META tags.
While I will certainly agree that META title and META keyword tags are near
ineffective, META descriptions still have a tremendous amount of value for the
purpose of search engine promotion and marketing.

If you conduct a search through an Inktomi powered property, like
search.yahoo.com, the descriptive text in the search engine result pages will
default to the META description tag. Of course, the reason here for limiting
the length of the META description again relates to how much space is allowed
in the search engine result pages.

Finally, I am curious to know if you can answer my original question... Can
Dreamweaver be used to locate HTML title tags over 70 characters in length?
Can Dreamweaver be used to locate META description tags of more than 150
characters?

I look forward to your response.


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Murray *TMM*
 
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Default Re: Counting Length of Title and META Fields - 06-01-2004 , 04:57 PM



<blush>

Check is in the mail... 8)

And my comments really were directed at meta keywords, not descriptions,
which have an obvious place in the world of useful things.

I cannot think of any way to have DW count title or meta tag characters,
short of writing a custom extension. While well within the range of some of
the qualified extensionologists here, it is woefully outside my sphere of
capabilities.

Sorry....

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"Eric_Lander" <webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Murray, while I appreciate your comments, I think you may be slightly
mistaken
in assuming that my knowledge of SEO is limited. That's not to blow my
own
horn, but I do want you to realize that I'm speaking from some degree of
experience here, as well as a reason for asking my question:

http://www.isedb.com/news/author/11

http://www.seotoday.com/browse.php/c...d/48/index.php
http://www.searchengineguide.com/lander/

For specific reference, the Inktomi and Google databases provide listings
(featured across many engines) in a very specific and formatted manner.
In the
current format, Google limits the page title's display to 60 characters.
Therefore, having a title much more than 60 would be detrimental. With
Inktomi, the limit is much higher (120 characters are shown), but these
pages
need to perform well in all engines, so why have anything much larger than
60
characters?

You may be underestimating the effectiveness of a well written META tags.
While I will certainly agree that META title and META keyword tags are
near
ineffective, META descriptions still have a tremendous amount of value for
the
purpose of search engine promotion and marketing.

If you conduct a search through an Inktomi powered property, like
search.yahoo.com, the descriptive text in the search engine result pages
will
default to the META description tag. Of course, the reason here for
limiting
the length of the META description again relates to how much space is
allowed
in the search engine result pages.

Finally, I am curious to know if you can answer my original question...
Can
Dreamweaver be used to locate HTML title tags over 70 characters in
length?
Can Dreamweaver be used to locate META description tags of more than 150
characters?

I look forward to your response.




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Alan
 
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Default Re: Counting Length of Title and META Fields - 06-01-2004 , 05:36 PM



open Find and Replace.

Find: specific tag-->Title
+ Containing-->Text---> .{70,100000}

put checkmark in "use regexp"

.. (it's a period) means any character except new line (so it's counting
blank spaces also)

{70, 100000} means "contains the preceding character at least 70 times, but
less than 1000000 times"

for the other one, same thing but
specific tag-->meta
+ with attribute-->NAME = description
+with attribute-->content = .{150, 100000000}

note- the simplistic . is counting blank spaces and , commas, so fudge
around or use a different regexp selector.

dw help-->search-->regular expression


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Murray *TMM*
 
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Default Re: Counting Length of Title and META Fields - 06-01-2004 , 05:56 PM



Alan:

Thanks - that's brilliant....

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"Alan" <dont_mail_me_period (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
open Find and Replace.

Find: specific tag-->Title
+ Containing-->Text---> .{70,100000}

put checkmark in "use regexp"

. (it's a period) means any character except new line (so it's counting
blank spaces also)

{70, 100000} means "contains the preceding character at least 70 times,
but
less than 1000000 times"

for the other one, same thing but
specific tag-->meta
+ with attribute-->NAME = description
+with attribute-->content = .{150, 100000000}

note- the simplistic . is counting blank spaces and , commas, so fudge
around or use a different regexp selector.

dw help-->search-->regular expression




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Joe Makowiec
 
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Default Re: Counting Length of Title and META Fields - 06-01-2004 , 06:35 PM



On Tue 01 Jun 2004 02:56:54p, Chris In Madison wrote in
macromedia.dreamweaver:

Quote:
Saw this on a quick Google search:

http://www.sitesolutions.com/analysis.asp

Might be useful, but not too sure.
Probably not. I just ran my site through their analysis engine. They had
a laundry list of 'stop' items, including using Meta-Tag Keywords. Yet
I've never used them, and I checked on a few search engines - I'm on page 1
on Google, Yahoo and AOL. The only engine I checked where I'm not on the
first page is ask.com. YMMV.

By the way, I like the spamtrap in your address!


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