Could Someone Look At Charitable Site With A Mac?

Hi,

Need a big favor. I'm building a religious charitable site on a VERY limited
budget. The site will be validated XHTML Transitional and employs a
div/layer-based, CSS formatted pop-up left-side navigation menu. The site
displays/operates exactly the same (correctly) in the latest Windows flavors
of IE (6.1) Mozilla (1.7) Mozilla Firefox (0.9) Netscape (7.1) and Opera
(7.5).

Background: I don't have access to a Mac either running the latest version
of Safari (1.2, I think) and am concerned about an issue with the pop-up
navigation menu that has to do with a CSS "text-align" issue. In the
browsers mentioned above, the left edge of the pop-up menu (when visible)
aligns itself perfectly with the right edge of the main navbar menu (that is
the hoped-for effect). The text is aligned right in both the main navbar
menu and pop-up menu, which my clients like the look of.

Problem: with some older browsers, rather than align itself with the right
edge of the main navbar menu, the pop-up menu appears somewhere by itself in
the middle of the page, which as best as I can tell is related to a
mishandling of the "text-align: right" attribute in the pop-up menu. My
client (on a VERY tight budget) understands this, but may still prefer the
current design so long as it displays correctly on the above browsers plus
Safari 1.2. Their design goal is to at least have the site display correctly
going forward on all the major browsers.

Favor: can someone take a look at the site with a Mac running Safari 1.2 and
let me know if the pop-up menu aligns correctly with the main left-side
navbar menu? Please don't be put off because it's a denominational site --
they do a lot of good work for children of all reaces, religions, ethnicity,
etc. Site address is www.ccsdetroit.org.

Of course, any help with this will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Jim Sheehan

Hi, I had a look at the site in Safari 1.2.2 and it works just fine. The
pop-up menu aligns very nicely with the main left-side
navbar menu.

And congratulations, it's a nice looking site!

Cheers,

Joss

Joss,

Thanks a bunch for looking at the site. I'm glad you liked it. We tried to
keep it simple and to the point. My clients seem to like it, too.

Thanks again. Happy 4th to you!

Jim


"catten" <webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote

Hi, I had a look at the site in Safari 1.2.2 and it works just fine. The
pop-up menu aligns very nicely with the main left-side
navbar menu.

And congratulations, it's a nice looking site!

Cheers,

Joss

I tried with everything I have (IE 5.2.3, Netscape 7.1, Opera 6.0.3, Camino
0.7, Firefox 0.8, Mozilla 1.6 and Safari 1.2.2) and found only one very odd
problem with Safari: the "Help us" menu doesn't work if the mouse comes down
from "News/Events".
Hope this helps.

The submenus are correctly aligned in Safari 1.2.2. However, from within
the menu itself, they appear only when you mouse *up* to their triggers.
So to see the submenu for "help us" you have to approach it from
"contact us." If you come down from "news/events" the submenu doesn't
show. All submenus show if you mouse onto their triggers from the right
(outside the menu area.) I'm assuming there are only two submenus, which
is all I see.

This odd behavior doesn't happen in IE 5.2 nor NN7.

--
James M. Shook
http://www.jshook.com

James Shook wrote:

The submenus are correctly aligned in Safari 1.2.2. However, from within
the menu itself, they appear only when you mouse *up* to their triggers.
So to see the submenu for "help us" you have to approach it from
"contact us." If you come down from "news/events" the submenu doesn't
show. All submenus show if you mouse onto their triggers from the right
(outside the menu area.) I'm assuming there are only two submenus, which
is all I see.

This odd behavior doesn't happen in IE 5.2 nor NN7.

Its the text-align: right; which causes that in Safari.

Osgood wrote:

Its the text-align: right; which causes that in Safari.

Really? weird....

--
James M. Shook
http://www.jshook.com

James Shook wrote:

Osgood wrote:

Its the text-align: right; which causes that in Safari.


Really? weird....

In this senario, yes. But there must be more going on because tests

reveal that aligning the text right does work in Safari.

I suspect its something to do with nested/nested layers in that menu
system. Removing the text-align:right; from the specific <div> in
question resolved the issue. However this is not the real problem, I
dont know what is without deconstructing it more.

Hi James (and Osgood, too),

Thanks a lot for looking at the site. The behavior you describe doesn't
happen in IE 5, 5.5, 6 or the Mozilla and Opera flavors I tried it in
either. There's an annoying, relatively minor alignment issue in IE 5.5, but
we've decided we can live with that. Yes, there are only 2 submenus.

I have a Project VII autolayers javascript behavior attached to all the
main menu <a> tags (and to hidden null links to the left of the trigger
elements), which is how I get the submenu layers to show/hide when the mouse
is moved around. I'm wondering if the unusual behavior you describe has to
do with some bug/issue in Safari as to how it handles that PVII javascript
behavior in a nested layers situation? But why from below and not from
above?!?

Any further thoughts will be, of course, much appreciated.

Thanks again for looking at the site.

Jim Sheehan



"James Shook" <jshook (AT) dont_mail (DOT) com> wrote

The submenus are correctly aligned in Safari 1.2.2. However, from within
the menu itself, they appear only when you mouse *up* to their triggers.
So to see the submenu for "help us" you have to approach it from
"contact us." If you come down from "news/events" the submenu doesn't
show. All submenus show if you mouse onto their triggers from the right
(outside the menu area.) I'm assuming there are only two submenus, which
is all I see.

This odd behavior doesn't happen in IE 5.2 nor NN7.

--
James M. Shook
http://www.jshook.com