Cool Menu and Older Browser Testing? & Template Q

Ok, so while searching the google archives, I found Murray's recommendation for
the pvii menu system. I had a DHTML menu before, that wouldn't have shown the
site links to search engines (doh!). Anyway, I played around with setting it up
last night at www.atozstrollers.com/newindex.htm. (pretty cool how it resizes
with the window).

The pvii menu system has a separate css for older browsers, but I can't see
what it looks like in an older browser...anyone know of a way to test it in an
older browser?

Also, my plan is to create a template for this site with this page. So once I
get it set up the way I want it, I just save it as a template page? Or do I
have to design it from the beginning as a template page?

Thanks!
Jade True
www.sagefish.com

If the links arn't in clean HTML the best solution is a sitemap link on the
bottom of every page. Make the sitemap with all text links and the search
engines will pick you right up (an example of this is macromedia.com... scroll
to the bottom of this page and you'll see the sitemap macromedia added this
since the use a flash menu)

To test your page in older browsers simply set your browser check errors on
dreamweaver to check all older borwsers you wish to check if it shows no errors
it'll display the same as it dose in the new browsers.

And finaly I havn't messed with template to much but I'm sure murray would be
happy to tell you with them.

Flash

Thanks Flash!

I will be using a site map, I'm finally starting to pay attention to the finer
points of optimizing web sites for search engines...for a while there I didn't
really give it a lot of thought.

I will try testing it like you mentioned, but I think it will look a lot
different in an older browser, since a lot of the css in the style sheet isn't
supported by older browsers....

jetrue:

anyone know of a way to test it in an
older browser?

Get one and install it - http://browsers.evolt.org

Also, my plan is to create a template for this site with this page. So
once I
get it set up the way I want it, I just save it as a template page?

That's right.

Or do I
have to design it from the beginning as a template page?

Only in your mind.

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"jetrue" <webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote

Ok, so while searching the google archives, I found Murray's
recommendation for
the pvii menu system. I had a DHTML menu before, that wouldn't have shown
the
site links to search engines (doh!). Anyway, I played around with setting
it up
last night at www.atozstrollers.com/newindex.htm. (pretty cool how it
resizes
with the window).

The pvii menu system has a separate css for older browsers, but I can't
see
what it looks like in an older browser...anyone know of a way to test it
in an
older browser?

Also, my plan is to create a template for this site with this page. So
once I
get it set up the way I want it, I just save it as a template page? Or do
I
have to design it from the beginning as a template page?

Thanks!
Jade True
www.sagefish.com

I will try testing it like you mentioned, but I think it will look a lot
different in an older browser, since a lot of the css in the style sheet
isn't
supported by older browsers....

Like what? PVII styles are pretty robust.

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Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver MX
(If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
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"jetrue" <webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote

Thanks Flash!

I will be using a site map, I'm finally starting to pay attention to the
finer
points of optimizing web sites for search engines...for a while there I
didn't
really give it a lot of thought.

I will try testing it like you mentioned, but I think it will look a lot
different in an older browser, since a lot of the css in the style sheet
isn't
supported by older browsers....

Maybe you could put the CSS into the site just for testing reasons then export
it back to a CSS document so you could find the CSS errors in the older
browsers. I don't tend to make sites that work on all the old browsers just
because I like to take advantage of the new stuff. I'll just have a simple
version of the site incase the viewer is seeing everything messed up due to the
fact there browser is ancient.

Flash

Thanks guys!

I actually found a way to install multiple instances of IE here:
http://www.skyzyx.com/downloads/

I've downloaded IE 4, and tested it there. While it doesn't support the
'block' property, the dotted borderlines or the hover and focus pseudo classes,
it looks much the same. I'm glad I checked too, becuase I had made an error in
the version 4 css, that caused it to not display properly.

I know its practically impossible to design a site that looks great and
perfect in all browsers, especially ancient versions (which I'm not all that
worried about). I just wanted to see it in IE4 equivalent and up, mostly for
curiosity's sake. From looking at the statistics on a site that I've designed
that gets a fair amount of traffic, it seems that about 73% of people are using
IE6, and about 20% are using IE5. So that leaves about 7% of people to worry
about with other and older browsers. Sheesh!

Yeah it's a 7% I don't care about :P those are the ones that can't aford a new
programs or don't know how to upgrade it then why would they buy from me? lol

Glad you found a solution though.

Flash