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Default Re: code for old English s character - 08-13-2006 , 01:51 PM






David Powers wrote:

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It's in Latin Extended-A (at the bottom-right on the second page of the
PDF file).
Silly me. I was looking for something with "English" in the title.

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Default Re: code for old English s character - 08-13-2006 , 01:54 PM






James Shook wrote:
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Silly me. I was looking for something with "English" in the title.
Reasonable assumption. It's easy to forget that there's no such thing as
the English alphabet. We needed the Romans to teach us how to write.

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Default Re: code for old English s character - 08-13-2006 , 02:00 PM



David Powers wrote:

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Is this what you mean?

þ
No that's "thorn", once a character in English but no more. It
represents the "th" voiced "th" sound, as in "this" and "that."

The other one is "eth" (ð) representing unvoiced "th", as in words like
"thistle" and "thin."

Each has an upper- and lower-case form. The one for eth looks like a "D"
with a short horizontal line through the upright. The Upper-case thorn
looks just like a bigger version of its lower-case form.

As far as I know, these two character are found today only in Icelandic
and Faroese.

I was referring to the small "y" character, also representing the "th"
sound, which you now see mostly in shop signs trying to achieve a sense
of antiquity, like "Ye Olde Candle Shoppe." Many people see this and say
"Yee old..." but although the character looked like a "y" it was
pronounced "th."

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Default Re: code for old English s character - 08-13-2006 , 02:06 PM



I believe that special "s" was only used when there were two together, as in
aſinine....

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"James Shook" <jshook (AT) dont_mail (DOT) com> wrote

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David Powers wrote:

There is: ſ

I didn't know that. Of courfe, I haven't needed to ufe thif character very
often.

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Default Re: code for old English s character - 08-13-2006 , 02:11 PM



Murray *ACE* wrote:

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Yo, yo, Bro!
Actually, a few years ago somebody asked me what "Hwæt!" meant. The
closest modern equivalent I could come up with was "Yo!" as in "listen
up!" Most translations usually give "Lo!" but that seems almost as
archaic as the original word.

Someone has actually made "Beowulf" into a movie. This strikes me as
well within Monty Python territory, but evidently it's serious. Hwæt! I
am SO going to see that movie.

I know--let's bring back "Hwæt!" We'll be the first, and six months from
now when everybody is saying it, we can say we started it. I propose it
replace "like" except when "like" is used as a comparative.

"So I was hwæt just hwæt hanging out at the mall and hwæt Brad hwæt came
over to me and I was all hwæt I totally know what you said to Tiffany
about me and hwæt I couldn't care less, and he was all hwæt no I didn't
say that and I was hwæt yes you did and he was all hwæt I did not and I
was hwæt whatever...."

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Default Re: code for old English s character - 08-13-2006 , 02:23 PM



I know how you pronounce "yo", but what about "hwæt"?

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"James Shook" <jshook (AT) dont_mail (DOT) com> wrote

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Murray *ACE* wrote:

Yo, yo, Bro!

Actually, a few years ago somebody asked me what "Hwæt!" meant. The
closest modern equivalent I could come up with was "Yo!" as in "listen
up!" Most translations usually give "Lo!" but that seems almost as archaic
as the original word.

Someone has actually made "Beowulf" into a movie. This strikes me as well
within Monty Python territory, but evidently it's serious. Hwæt! I am SO
going to see that movie.

I know--let's bring back "Hwæt!" We'll be the first, and six months from
now when everybody is saying it, we can say we started it. I propose it
replace "like" except when "like" is used as a comparative.

"So I was hwæt just hwæt hanging out at the mall and hwæt Brad hwæt came
over to me and I was all hwæt I totally know what you said to Tiffany
about me and hwæt I couldn't care less, and he was all hwæt no I didn't
say that and I was hwæt yes you did and he was all hwæt I did not and I
was hwæt whatever...."

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Default Re: code for old English s character - 08-13-2006 , 02:25 PM



Murray *ACE* wrote:

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I believe that special "s" was only used when there were two together, as in
aſinine....
http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/declara/images/dunlap.jpg

You can just make out "When in the courfe of human Events it becomes
neceffary...."

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Default Re: code for old English s character - 08-13-2006 , 02:28 PM



So what the heck do I know? 8)

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"James Shook" <jshook (AT) dont_mail (DOT) com> wrote

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Murray *ACE* wrote:

I believe that special "s" was only used when there were two together, as
in aſinine....

http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/declara/images/dunlap.jpg

You can just make out "When in the courfe of human Events it becomes
neceffary...."

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Default Re: code for old English s character - 08-13-2006 , 02:28 PM



Here's a better one:
http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/treasure...es/uc06330.jpg

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Default Re: code for old English s character - 08-13-2006 , 02:33 PM



Murray *ACE* wrote:
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So what the heck do I know? 8)
I thought the same thing. I've been studying the typography for the DOI,
and have come to the tentative conclusion that the "f" character is
always used inside a word but never to start or finish one. So
"happinefs" for example.

It's fun to read this out loud and use the sound of the letter "f" when
that alternate "s" or whatever it's called is used.

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