Behavior not working anymore

Good day gentleman,

This is a problem that have just occurred, and I?ve contacted Macromedia
Support because of it. In any case, I figure it wouldn?t hurt anyone to post
the problem here, and see if anyone has any ideas in how to solve the issue.

Here?s the deal, I?m in the last phase of putting the corporate website all
together. 14 templates have been created and they control about 150 pages.
There was no problem building all of it despite each template having about 10
pop-up menus each? in fact, all pop-up menus are working fine till date, in all
pages.

The problems started when I?ve decided to add a new pop-up menu to the
templates? just to find out the option is not active anymore. I open the
template, select the image to use, go to the behaviors area to select ?Show
Pop-Up Menu?, and the option is no longer active. I?ve tried the same thing in
all templates and none allows me to add a new pop-up menu. However, if I create
a new blank page and insert an image, it?s possible to follow the exact same
procedure as before and insert a new menu.

Any ideas about how to solve the issue are be most welcome.

Best regards,

ejoao

14 templates have been created and they control about 150 pages.

Why so many templates?

10
pop-up menus each?

Ugh - when you say 'pop-up' menus, do you mean the ones written by DW/FW?

The problems started when I?ve decided to add a new pop-up menu to the
templates?

These pop-up menus (if that is what you used) and templates are a toxic
combination. You will have nothing but trouble from it.

just to find out the option is not active anymore.

That's just the beginning of your problems, and this observation means that
you did use the DW/FW pop-up menus. I'm sorry for that.

Any ideas about how to solve the issue are be most welcome.

It's unfortunate you didn't try adding the pop-up menus to your template
early on. That option is not available on a template page. What's really
unfortunate is that Macromedia let this half-baked and badly broken system
every make its way into a commercial product, and then having done that, let
it stay there through 4 releases!

My advice to you is NOT going to be what you want to hear. You must rip
those menus out of your templates and replace them with a more
user-friendly, spider-friendly, accessible friendly, functional menu system.
I really recommend you take a hard look at the very simple pop-up menus from
Project Seven -

http://www.projectseven.com/products/menusystems/pmm/

or from Thierry -

http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/dropdown/default.asp

and replace those that you have. Either of these are completely compatible
with DW templates.

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"eJoao" <webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote

Good day gentleman,

This is a problem that have just occurred, and I?ve contacted Macromedia
Support because of it. In any case, I figure it wouldn?t hurt anyone to
post
the problem here, and see if anyone has any ideas in how to solve the
issue.

Here?s the deal, I?m in the last phase of putting the corporate website
all
together. 14 templates have been created and they control about 150 pages.
There was no problem building all of it despite each template having about
10
pop-up menus each? in fact, all pop-up menus are working fine till date,
in all
pages.

The problems started when I?ve decided to add a new pop-up menu to the
templates? just to find out the option is not active anymore. I open the
template, select the image to use, go to the behaviors area to select
?Show
Pop-Up Menu?, and the option is no longer active. I?ve tried the same
thing in
all templates and none allows me to add a new pop-up menu. However, if I
create
a new blank page and insert an image, it?s possible to follow the exact
same
procedure as before and insert a new menu.

Any ideas about how to solve the issue are be most welcome.

Best regards,

ejoao

Good day Murray *TMM*,

Thank you for your prompt reply.

On to your specific questions:

Why so many templates?

?? 14 templates because there are 14 major areas inside the website, and each
template controls all navigation regarding each area. Some areas only have a
few pages, wile others have dozens of them.

10 pop-up menus each?

?? Yes. There is a navigation bar with all navigation relative to the website
on the top of each page. Each area of the website has her own button in the
navigation bar, each one of the buttons originating a pop-up menu with all
links to the respective area. Makes sense? This way, any viewer is able to
navigate through the entire website just using the navigation bar at the top.
We use other navigation systems as well, but this one has been working
particularly well for the last 1.5 years.

The problem with this particular behavior not working inside of the templates
have happened before, but I thought to be a bug and corrected already by
Macromedia. Last time I?ve noticed this problem it was necessary to rebuild all
templates, and the problem never showed his colors again until now. So I
thought it to be safe.

I sincerely appreciate your advice and will give a close look to the pop-up
menus you?re recommending.

Best,

ejoao

?? 14 templates because there are 14 major areas inside the website, and
each
template controls all navigation regarding each area. Some areas only have
a
few pages, wile others have dozens of them.

Having so many templates nearly negates the convenience of using them. Such
layout requirements are not so difficult to accommodate with a single
template and, say, server-side includes, you know? For example, this site -

http://www.practicalcomponents.com

is 175 pages (approximately) and is controlled by a single template
(navigate through and watch the menus on the right change from one section
to the next). The single template is conditionally writing a link to a
server-side include for the correct menu. You could easily do the same
thing with server-scripting, or with a single editable region into which you
manually place the link to the correct navigation include.

?? Yes. There is a navigation bar with all navigation relative to the
website
on the top of each page. Each area of the website has her own button in
the
navigation bar, each one of the buttons originating a pop-up menu with all
links to the respective area. Makes sense? This way, any viewer is able to
navigate through the entire website just using the navigation bar at the
top.
We use other navigation systems as well, but this one has been working
particularly well for the last 1.5 years.

See my response above. Such navigation schemes are common and easy to
manage in the way I suggest.

The problem with this particular behavior not working inside of the
templates
have happened before, but I thought to be a bug and corrected already by
Macromedia.

It is a "BUG" but the bug is the menu system itself, unfortunately. Without
changing the entire thing, there is no hope of 'fixing' it. Here's why -

1. The links to the individual pages are written into the javascript code
inserted into the head of the document.
2. Such links are not managed by DW's link management scheme.
3. Links in templates must all be made either relative to the template
document, or relative to the root of the site.
4. The links in the pop-up menus are made as DOCUMENT relative links.
5. Thus, when you spawn a child page and save it in some other location, DW
cannot adjust the link to accommodate that new save location.

That's why (at least one reason why) the pop-up menus are not compatible
with templates.

I sincerely appreciate your advice and will give a close look to the
pop-up
menus you?re recommending.

I believe that this is the only alternative for you. Good luck!

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"eJoao" <webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote

Good day Murray *TMM*,

Thank you for your prompt reply.

On to your specific questions:

Why so many templates?

?? 14 templates because there are 14 major areas inside the website, and
each
template controls all navigation regarding each area. Some areas only have
a
few pages, wile others have dozens of them.

10 pop-up menus each?

?? Yes. There is a navigation bar with all navigation relative to the
website
on the top of each page. Each area of the website has her own button in
the
navigation bar, each one of the buttons originating a pop-up menu with all
links to the respective area. Makes sense? This way, any viewer is able to
navigate through the entire website just using the navigation bar at the
top.
We use other navigation systems as well, but this one has been working
particularly well for the last 1.5 years.

The problem with this particular behavior not working inside of the
templates
have happened before, but I thought to be a bug and corrected already by
Macromedia. Last time I?ve noticed this problem it was necessary to
rebuild all
templates, and the problem never showed his colors again until now. So I
thought it to be safe.

I sincerely appreciate your advice and will give a close look to the
pop-up
menus you?re recommending.

Best,

ejoao