An Accordion Widget as read by JAWS

David Powers wrote:

Dooza wrote:
I would love to see this back as an extension!

I don't know if you're aware of my Lorem and More extension. As well as
Lorem Ipsum, it generates corporate mumbo jumbo - "meaningful" phrases
taken at random from genuine business textbooks.

You can download it free from here:

http://japan-interface.co.uk/webdesign/tools/index.html

I had the Technocurve one, but now I have yours as well.

Dooza
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[Q]Is this originally in another language, translated by Babelfish? ;o)[/Q]
I am surprised that the Forum's grammarian did not have something to say about
it. Even I, being among the troubled and challenged, can find the error.

Roddy :smile;

Once again, this is not SPAM. Rather, it is informational redundancy necessary
to overcome the level of noise.

You once offered to provide a complimentary accordion that I did not need. I
am now willing to accept that offer with purchase of the Project Seven
horizontal menu bar and a copy of roddy72 (original format) that I do need.
Perhaps Murray or someone else very close to Project-Seven could serve as a
go-between with regard to after service. If you will agree to this, then please
tell me how to proceed, so that I can begin moving forward once again. This
menu bar issue has already taken too large a toll in time, effort, and
reputation.

IMAGINE PROTOTYPE:
http://homepage.mac.com/moogoonghwa/Imagine_Prototype/Content/


Roddy :smile;

"kiusau" <webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote

You once offered to provide a complimentary accordion that I did not need.
I
am now willing to accept that offer with purchase of the Project Seven
horizontal menu bar and a copy of roddy72 (original format) that I do
need.
Perhaps Murray or someone else very close to Project-Seven could serve as
a
go-between with regard to after service. If you will agree to this, then
please tell me how to proceed, so that I can begin moving forward once
again.

a real "Trojan Offer"...

:-)

"kiusau" wrote:

You once offered to provide a complimentary accordion that I did not need.
I
am now willing to accept that offer with purchase of the Project Seven
horizontal menu bar and a copy of roddy72 (original format) that I do
need.
Perhaps Murray or someone else very close to Project-Seven could serve as
a
go-between with regard to after service. If you will agree to this, then
please
tell me how to proceed, so that I can begin moving forward once again.
This
menu bar issue has already taken too large a toll in time, effort, and
reputation.

To quote you, or rather paraphrase you, in numerous other posts, this is not
a commercial forum. If you want to do business then please go to the
relevant site. You have enough links to the P7 sites and their fora and tech
support. Take your anal retentiveness there. You really are such an a**.
(add letters of your choice from A-Z.)

JJ

I want to make it perfectly clear that when a customer asks for support we
give him or her support, regardless of whether the customer is nice to us or
not. That said, you have a couple of options here:

1. You can ask Adobe to help you get your spry menu and spry accordion
working the way you want. They do owe you as much. If that help is not
forthcoming on this forum, you can try posting on the spry forum.

2. You can contact PVII directly with a request for a free license and we
will make a decision. If you are given a free license and/or you do purchase
a product, as well, then you would qualify for direct support, which can be
obtained in a number of ways, but not on Adobe's forums.

--
Al Sparber - PVII
http://www.projectseven.com
Dreamweaver Menus | Galleries | Widgets
http://www.projectseven.com/go/apm
An Accessible & Elegant Accordion




"kiusau" <webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote

[q]Here is a quick example using our menu and accordion:
http://www.projectseven.com/testing/customers/roddy72/[/q]

Although we have some disagreement about the venue, you are a good
salesperson. I say this, because you obviously believe in your product
and
style it according to your client's taste and need. Indeed, if your menu
bar
and accordion are more accessible, as you claim, then what you have shown
is
preferable to what I am currently trying to achieve.

This said, I am trying to learn, and buying my way out of my dilemma or
accepting complimentary gifts would likely serve as a disincentive for my
further edification with regard to the structure, behavior, placement, and
appearance of SPRY objects. There is also the dependency question,
because we
did get off to such a very bad start, I am not sure that Project-Seven
after-service is my best alternative for the moment.

Another consideration is that no one, but yourself, appears either
interested
or capable of helping me resolve my current problem. In the end, it is
also
silly for me to expect that you will want to spend very much time with me
trying to fix an Adobe product, when you have another that you believe to
be
superior.

Finally, there is the issue of time. Rather than struggling to "reinvent
the
wheel" as you once said, I could be working on other pressing issues such
as
print media and my further acquisition of JavaScript.

Having taken all of this into consideration and still unable to make my
horizontal menu bar perform. I would like to propose the following:

You once offered to provide a complimentary accordion that I did not need.
I
am now willing to accept that offer with purchase of the Project Seven
horizontal menu bar and a copy of roddy72 (original format) that I do
need.
Perhaps Murray or someone else very close to Project-Seven could serve as
a
go-between with regard to after service. If you will agree to this, then
please tell me how to proceed, so that I can begin moving forward once
again.
This menu bar issue has already taken too large a toll in time, effort,
and
reputation.

IMAGINE PROTOTYPE:
http://homepage.mac.com/moogoonghwa/Imagine_Prototype/Content/

Roddy :smile;

[Q]To quote you, or rather paraphrase you, in numerous other posts, this is not
a commercial forum. If you want to do business then please go to the relevant
site. You have enough links to the P7 sites and their fora and tech
support.[/Q]

The business between Al Sparber and me is just not about the purchase of a
menubar; rather, it includes a relationship between two people who share the
same community and have had a falling out that has affected the entire
community -- obviously one that you appear to care little about. I base this
latter comment on that part of your comment that I did not feel worthy of a
second display.

Roddy :smile;

P.S. By the way, if you find me so offensive why do you bother to read my
posts? I don't get it.

If you should decide to respond to this question, please do so in a private
email. The address is findable on the web using various keywords including
"hashimori iwato", "kiusau", and "moogoonghwa". I normally delete unwanted
spam or relegate it automatically to my junk folder, but in your case I will
make an effort to read and respond to what you write, as we do share the same
forum together.

David Powers stated in post gq7kkq$90g$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com on 3/23/09
2:26 AM:

Dooza wrote:
I would love to see this back as an extension!

I don't know if you're aware of my Lorem and More extension. As well as
Lorem Ipsum, it generates corporate mumbo jumbo - "meaningful" phrases
taken at random from genuine business textbooks.

You can download it free from here:

http://japan-interface.co.uk/webdesign/tools/index.html

I have it and use it often, even on my newest site mock-up for a customer.
She was a little confused by the text, but I told her I was converting her
content to Latin for free.


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[Q]I want to make it perfectly clear that when a customer asks for support we
give him or her support, regardless of whether the customer is nice to us or
not.[/q]
I will reserve comment.

[q]That said, you have a couple of options here:

1. You can ask Adobe to help you get your spry menu and spry accordion working
the way you want. They do owe you as much.[/q]

One would think so, wouldn't one? Unfortunately, according to Adobe I must
either return to Saudi Arabia or call Beijing in order to receive direct
support for my Adobe products. Pretty amazing, isn't it? It is, however, the
reason that I joined this forum.

[q]If that help is not forthcoming on this forum, you can try posting on the
spry forum.[/q]
Depending on the overlap of participants this is probably a very good idea.
When I first joined this forum, SPRY was not an issue, and I forgot that such
an alternative was there. Thank you for the suggestion.

[q]2. You can contact PVII directly with a request for a free license and we
will make a decision. If you are given a free license and/or you do purchase a
product, as well, then you would qualify for direct support, which can be
obtained in a number of ways, but not on Adobe's forums.[/q]
Is there some reason, why you cannot do this on my behalf? After all, you do
appear to be this forum's P7 representative and are very familiar with what it
is that I need. You have even proposed a model.

I have a naturally acquired aversion toward bureaucracy acquired in a former
British colony, mind you. I do know how to enter into contract and keep my
promises, however.

Roddy :smile;

Please treat this as informational redundancy necessary to cut through the
noise.

[Q]Is there some reason, why you cannot do this on my behalf? After all, you
do appear to be this forum's P7 representative and are very familiar with what
it is that I need. You have even proposed a model. [/Q]

Or, do you want me to call and ask for Al Sparber?
Be wary though, unlike many, I am about the same on- and off-line. Simply
online my laughter is not nearly so audible.

Roddy :smile;