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M36T
 
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Default Re: 15 year old aspiring kid needs help =) - 07-12-2004 , 08:18 PM






Hey, I didn't know there was anyone else on here my age!!! Well, actually I'm
16, close enough! lol Anyway, here are my $0.02...

DO NOT use tables to layout a website.
Avoid out of date library books. (except for graphic design books, they
usually last longer)
Always ask questions.
When you build a website, ALWAYS validate it with the W3C's
validator(http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/ (although a lot of their stuff is
dealing with MM products, *thinking* I wonder why? */thinking*) and any others
you can find.

Keep it up, and maybe get your mom to give me a couple tips on graphic design,
k? lol

Best,
Jake


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Default Re: 15 year old aspiring kid needs help =) - 07-12-2004 , 08:45 PM







In terms of the tools, yes - it's the same product. It has to be, otherwise
it wouldn't be much good for learning from. But it is directed at people who
are ONLY using it for learning, hence the lower price. Macromedias intention
is that you use the academic version to learn, then purchase the full
version once you want to start making money out of it.



^But if I have the software shuldn't I be able to publish the site? And if I
can publish the site on a web server I can get money =).




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Kindler Chase
 
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Default Re: 15 year old aspiring kid needs help =) - 07-12-2004 , 08:58 PM



Evan043 wrote:
Quote:
In terms of the tools, yes - it's the same product. It has to be,
otherwise it wouldn't be much good for learning from. But it is
directed at people who are ONLY using it for learning, hence the
lower price. Macromedias intention is that you use the academic
version to learn, then purchase the full version once you want to
start making money out of it.



^But if I have the software shuldn't I be able to publish the site?
And if I can publish the site on a web server I can get money =).
Part of entering the business world is dealing with the realities of
licensing restrictions. Read up on the EULA:
http://www.macromedia.com/software/eula/tools/
Specifically section 3.f.


Common Student FAQ's:
http://www.macromedia.com/buy/volume_license/pep/student/faq.html
Specifically the limitations faq


In short, if you are using the Student Version for commercial purposes, aka,
making money, then you are violating the EULA that you agreed to by
installing the Student Version.

--
kindler chase
http://www.ncubed.com
Moving with SuperInvoice's Groove Machine

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Default Re: 15 year old aspiring kid needs help =) - 07-12-2004 , 09:13 PM



Wow, this isnt what I hoped for. Now I have to find some way to gather 1000$. I
suppose I could start out by just buying Dreamweaver.

Is it possible to make money creating web sites for people only using
Dreamweaver though? It seems to me I need flash, Fireworks, cold fusion and
other programs to make a website that is worthy enough to get paid to make.


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Default Re: 15 year old aspiring kid needs help =) - 07-12-2004 , 09:22 PM



"M36T" <webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
DO NOT use tables to layout a website.
I have to ask - what's your reasoning as to why you shouldn't use tables?

Quote:
Avoid out of date library books. (except for graphic design books, they
usually last longer)
Always ask questions.
Good advice

Quote:
When you build a website, ALWAYS validate it with the W3C's
Use the html and css validator here: http://validator.w3.org/

or download Firefox browser and get the web developer tools, you can
validate straight from the toolbar.
http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/

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Default Re: 15 year old aspiring kid needs help =) - 07-13-2004 , 12:03 AM



I have to ask - what's your reasoning as to why you shouldn't use tables?
There are many reason, but the main reason for me is this: If you base your
whole site off of one or more CSS files, and then decide you want to make a
major change, such as switch the nav panel to the right and the main content to
the left side, you can do it by only changing the one CSS file. I know that
sounds a little far fetched, but it has happend to me before. But not only
that, you can make ANY change in seconds if you have all of your pages based
off of one CSS file. Other reason include: Your source code for all the pages
are MUCH cleaner; You're not duplicating the same layout code for every page
(all you're doing is adding content, not line after line of format code
(tables)); And so much more!!! I could go on for a while, except I am tired.

G'night all,
Jake


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Murray *TMM*
 
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Default Re: 15 year old aspiring kid needs help =) - 07-13-2004 , 08:29 AM



Oy. Such an idealist.

Use whatever works best for you, not what is dictated by some arbitrary
standard.

When you grow up, you'll see that this is a very good way to build websites.

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"M36T" <webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
I have to ask - what's your reasoning as to why you shouldn't use tables?
There are many reason, but the main reason for me is this: If you base
your
whole site off of one or more CSS files, and then decide you want to make
a
major change, such as switch the nav panel to the right and the main
content to
the left side, you can do it by only changing the one CSS file. I know
that
sounds a little far fetched, but it has happend to me before. But not only
that, you can make ANY change in seconds if you have all of your pages
based
off of one CSS file. Other reason include: Your source code for all the
pages
are MUCH cleaner; You're not duplicating the same layout code for every
page
(all you're doing is adding content, not line after line of format code
(tables)); And so much more!!! I could go on for a while, except I am
tired.

G'night all,
Jake




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Murray *TMM*
 
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Default Re: 15 year old aspiring kid needs help =) - 07-13-2004 , 08:29 AM



Yes - and developing a sound ethical sense, too.

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Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver MX
(If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
==================
news://forums.macromedia.com/macromedia.dreamweaver - THE BEST WAY TO GET
ANSWERS
==================
http://www.dreamweavermx-templates.com - Template Triage!
http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ - Macromedia (MM) Technotes
==================

"Kindler Chase" <weaver (AT) DELETEME_roubaixinteractive (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Evan043 wrote:
In terms of the tools, yes - it's the same product. It has to be,
otherwise it wouldn't be much good for learning from. But it is
directed at people who are ONLY using it for learning, hence the
lower price. Macromedias intention is that you use the academic
version to learn, then purchase the full version once you want to
start making money out of it.



^But if I have the software shuldn't I be able to publish the site?
And if I can publish the site on a web server I can get money =).

Part of entering the business world is dealing with the realities of
licensing restrictions. Read up on the EULA:
http://www.macromedia.com/software/eula/tools/
Specifically section 3.f.


Common Student FAQ's:
http://www.macromedia.com/buy/volume_license/pep/student/faq.html
Specifically the limitations faq


In short, if you are using the Student Version for commercial purposes,
aka,
making money, then you are violating the EULA that you agreed to by
installing the Student Version.

--
kindler chase
http://www.ncubed.com
Moving with SuperInvoice's Groove Machine

news://news.ncubed.com/support
n3 Support Group





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M36T
 
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Default Re: 15 year old aspiring kid needs help =) - 07-13-2004 , 09:09 AM



Oy. Such an idealist.
What's that supposed to mean??!!

-Jake


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Murray *TMM*
 
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Default Re: 15 year old aspiring kid needs help =) - 07-13-2004 , 09:15 AM



It means that you are recommending not using a perfectly valid and usable
HTML page element simply to achieve the state of not using it. Get
pragmatic. If it works, use it. You'll be a better coder for it.

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(If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
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http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ - Macromedia (MM) Technotes
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"M36T" <webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote

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Oy. Such an idealist.
What's that supposed to mean??!!

-Jake




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