Re: Javascript events: keydown, keyup and change are screwy

On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 20:12:29 -0700, Andrew DeFaria wrote:

I recommend you always validate your markup code with a validator
before posting a question. All problems which will need to be
corrected anyway after testing with various user agents are related to
validation errors.

Not so really here. The problem was the usage of alert! ;-)

I myself am limited to testing on IE6,
Moz1.3, NN 4.08, Lynx and Opera (all on XP).

I am *astounded* that you managed to test
you pages on even a small percentage of
the available UA's.

How do you do that?

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Andrew Thompson wrote:

On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 20:12:29 -0700, Andrew DeFaria wrote:

I recommend you always validate your markup code with a validator
before posting a question. All problems which will need to be
corrected anyway after testing with various user agents are related to
validation errors.

Not so really here. The problem was the usage of alert! ;-)

I myself am limited to testing on IE6, Moz1.3, NN 4.08, Lynx and
Opera (all on XP).

I am *astounded* that you managed to test you pages on even a small
percentage of the available UA's.

I'm confused! Where did I say I tested my pages on any UA's at all
really?!? Listen this is a system that I'm designing for me, not the
world, though I may eventually offer it up. As such I only really care
that it works on Mozilla (well I use Firefox but that's derivitive) and
perhaps IE (cause I'm currently limited to that at work). Still I will
give nod to standard compliance and I suspect that it will probably work
just find on the other brouwsers like Opera, et. al. In general I don't
go off an use esoteric, possibly browser specific functionality like
ActiveX, etc. And while I like Netscape I have no plans on trying to
support 4.08. Hell there's 6.0 and the 7.x series! I see above you
mention IE 6 but not IE 5. I see is similarly for Netscape.

How do you do that?

Um. I'd get you download and install them then run your pages through
them. I have XP and Linux at home so I can cover that angle if I want.
You could also ask friends that you know that might have access to other
OSes or browsers. But generally I think it's best to code for the
standards and then rely on standards compliances. Isn't that one reason
for standards?

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On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 09:25:00 -0700, Andrew DeFaria wrote:

But generally I think it's best to code for the
standards

Agree.

..and then rely on standards compliances.

Disagree.

..Isn't that one reason
for standards?

Well, 'standards' are a nice ideal,
and a wonderful *concept*... ;-)

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Andrew DeFaria wrote:
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I'm confused! ...
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Richard.

Andrew Thompson wrote:

On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 09:25:00 -0700, Andrew DeFaria wrote:

But generally I think it's best to code for the standards

Agree.

..and then rely on standards compliances.

Disagree.

I mean when you don't have the money, resources nor time to purchase one
of each time of machine/OS and browser. YMMV.

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Richard Cornford wrote:

Andrew DeFaria wrote:
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I'm confused! ...

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Content types for posts to comp.lang.javascript should be plain text only.

So says you!

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Andrew DeFaria said:

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Richard Cornford wrote:

Andrew DeFaria wrote:
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I'm confused! ...

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Content types for posts to comp.lang.javascript should be plain text only.

So says you!

So says the newsgroup FAQ:
http://www.jibbering.com/faq/#FAQ2_3

On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 22:09:29 -0700, Andrew DeFaria wrote:

Richard Cornford wrote:
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Content types for posts to comp.lang.javascript should be plain text only.

So says you!

...and the FAQ. Paragraph 5 of,
<http://www.jibbering.com/faq/#FAQ2_3>

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Lee wrote:

Andrew DeFaria said:

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Richard Cornford wrote:

Andrew DeFaria wrote:
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I'm confused! ...

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Content types for posts to comp.lang.javascript should be plain text
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So says you!

So says the newsgroup FAQ:
http://www.jibbering.com/faq/#FAQ2_3

BFD! Sue me!
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Andrew DeFaria said:

Content types for posts to comp.lang.javascript should be plain text
only.<br
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So says you!<br
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So says the newsgroup FAQ:<br
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href="http://www.jibbering.com/faq/#FAQ2_3">http://www.jibbering.com/faq/#FAQ2_3</a><br
/blockquote
BFD! Sue me!<br

It's more or less self-enforcing. People who are so rude
as to continue to post HTML gain reputations as assholes,
and so the people who are most able to help simply stop
reading their posts.

Then there are the prospective employers who Google to see
what this "Andrew DeFaria" has contributed, and find out
that you have no respect for established conventions, or
for other people.

Best of luck in life. I think you're going to need it.