Re: How do I turn javascript off PROGRAMATICALLY?

JRS: In article <4083c5f4 (AT) andromeda (DOT) datanet.hu>, seen in
news:comp.lang.javascript, Csaba Gabor <news (AT) CsabaGabor (DOT) com> posted at
Mon, 19 Apr 2004 14:19:55 :

I'm not talking javascript hara-kiri here. I've got
a database of web pages or snippets I've created
and I'd like to display them in a table. So on my
server (in PHP) I take all the files, and plunk the
text for each between <TD> tags and return that
page, everyone's happy.

Now some joker (me) comes along and puts the single line

SCRIPT>alert('Hi mom')</SCRIPT>Dad

You have problems of an altogether different nature, too.

You are, legally, the publisher of whatever appears on your site; and
you may be held responsible if illegal material appears on it.

After the beginning of next month, at least, you will need to comply
with EU law or risk the consequences.

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JRS: In article <4083c5f4 (AT) andromeda (DOT) datanet.hu>, seen in
news:comp.lang.javascript, Csaba Gabor <news (AT) CsabaGabor (DOT) com> posted at
Mon, 19 Apr 2004 14:19:55 :

I'm not talking javascript hara-kiri here. I've got
a database of web pages or snippets I've created
and I'd like to display them in a table. So on my
server (in PHP) I take all the files, and plunk the
text for each between <TD> tags and return that
page, everyone's happy.

Now some joker (me) comes along and puts the single line

SCRIPT>alert('Hi mom')</SCRIPT>Dad



You have problems of an altogether different nature, too.

You are, legally, the publisher of whatever appears on your site; and
you may be held responsible if illegal material appears on it.

After the beginning of next month, at least, you will need to comply
with EU law or risk the consequences.

What law are you speaking of?

In article <maqV68CG5DhAFwmq (AT) merlyn (DOT) demon.co.uk>,
spam (AT) merlyn (DOT) demon.co.uk enlightened us with...

You have problems of an altogether different nature, too.

You are, legally, the publisher of whatever appears on your site; and
you may be held responsible if illegal material appears on it.

After the beginning of next month, at least, you will need to comply
with EU law or risk the consequences.

Would sites in other countries also need to comply with EU law?
How could they possibly hope to ensure such compliance?

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JRS: In article <MPG.1aeefd67bd38c0cc989d96 (AT) nntp (DOT) lucent.com>, seen in
news:comp.lang.javascript, kaeli <tiny_one (AT) NOSPAM (DOT) comcast.net> posted at
Tue, 20 Apr 2004 10:27:42 :

In article <maqV68CG5DhAFwmq (AT) merlyn (DOT) demon.co.uk>,
spam (AT) merlyn (DOT) demon.co.uk enlightened us with...


You have problems of an altogether different nature, too.

You are, legally, the publisher of whatever appears on your site; and
you may be held responsible if illegal material appears on it.

After the beginning of next month, at least, you will need to comply
with EU law or risk the consequences.


Would sites in other countries also need to comply with EU law?
How could they possibly hope to ensure such compliance?

The USA appears to believe that it has extraterritorial legal rights;
why should the EU not have otherwise, perhaps even by treaty?

I believe that Web sites based in the USA or under the control of an
American are requited to comply with American law, and so on.

Let us suppose that you, believed to be an American in America, host
such a site; and that it is used by persons unknown for distributing
messages in support of OBL, YA, and other undesirables, or encouraging
and assisting criminal activity within the USA. ISTM likely that the
FBI, the DHS, or some other Federal agency will become Manifestly
Displeased.

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This is way off topic but a very interesting thread.
First off, just to clarify a bit, the table for showing
these encapsulated web pages/snippets is only
meant for me so I don't run into your issues, but
acutally I am curious if you could mention some
specifics about this law or provide a link.

The EU has already passed laws governing the
action of non EU citizens abroad. As I understand
it, if you sell something to an EU citizen, the EU wants
you to collect VAT on its behalf and send it in, right?

Meanwhile, the US had a well publicized case
in the last few years. Remember Dimitri Skylarof?
He's the Russian guy who worked for a company
and legally (in Russia) cracked an Adobe encryption
scheme for his employer, Elcomsoft, a Russian
company (should go to trial later this year).
US grants him a visa and when he arrives to
Vegas, WHAM, Adobe sics the feds on him
for breaking the DMCA, which is a US law that
says you shall not divulge anything about electronic
security flaws no matter how bad they are. Really,
I have to wonder if web programmers fighting against
all the browser bugs there are are violating this law
en masse, for many bugs could be construed as a
form of protection. Sound too farfetched?...

Finally, consider the recent situation that arose in
Hungary. Turns out, doctors in Hungary don't have
the same salary as their western counterparts.
Surprise! So they collect tips. Up front. It's called
gratitude money ("hála pénz"). This is nothing new, it's
been done for years and years. Somebody set up a
website to collect information on how much various
doctors were charging. When the press got ahold of
this there was a huge stink. The government wasn't
happy because it made them look cheap PLUS they
figured out they weren't getting taxes on that money.
The doctors weren't happy cause it made them seem
dirty (the people weren't getting the services that the
government was telling them they were entitled to).
The citizens were not happy because they could either
pay an extra month's worth of wages or wonder whether
the doctor would see them. Of course the news didn't
make any difference to them because everybody already
knew about the situation anyway.

But then a government minister figured that the privacy
of them there doctors was being violated. Can you
imagine? They are flagrantly demanding money from
people (the public) who have already paid to use their
services, and then saying that compiling this information
violates their privacy? I was surprised to hear that
the guy very nicely took his web page down. A month
later I was astounded to hear that the guy was getting sued.
Wait a sec, hadn't he taken his site down right away?
Well, yes, but some guy in America copied the data
and then reposted it when the original site went down.
They evidently couldn't sue the guy in America so they're
going after this guy, I suppose on the grounds that if he
hadn't put up his web site, the guy in America wouldn't
have been able to copy it. I have no idea of the disposition
of this case, but I am curious.

Hoping you don't run afoul of another country's
unknown law that applies to you,
Csaba Gabor