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Default Re: wysiwyg-editor - 11-25-2005 , 02:11 PM






Michael Peters wrote:

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oops, that was by mistake. Sorry, I didn't really want to post German in an
international newsgroup.

But I'm still looking for more recommendations for a simple wysiwyg editor.

To those who tell me that I should learn HTML, or that I should set up a
CMS - please reread my question. I'm a web professional, and this is simply
not what I need here. I need a good and simple wysiwyg editor for a
non-HTML-speaker who is only supposed to edit content parts of static pages.
How is a CMS not the solution?
Client (I'm assuming your non-HTML-speaker is a client) logs in to the
CMS, navigates to the page he wants to change, clicks 'edit', and gets
the current content in a nice and tidy text box (or several), edits
it, presses "save changes", and the job is done.

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Default Re: wysiwyg-editor - 11-25-2005 , 03:05 PM






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How is a CMS not the solution?
Client (I'm assuming your non-HTML-speaker is a client) logs in to the
CMS, navigates to the page he wants to change, clicks 'edit', and gets
the current content in a nice and tidy text box (or several), edits
it, presses "save changes", and the job is done.
:-)

and what does the client use to edit the page?

right, a wysiwyg editor. There's a wysiwyg editor at the heart of every CMS.

I only need the wysiwyg editor, not the other 95% of the CMS.


-Michael





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Default Re: wysiwyg-editor - 11-25-2005 , 03:37 PM



On Fri, 25 Nov 2005, Michael Peters wrote:

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How is a CMS not the solution?
Client (I'm assuming your non-HTML-speaker is a client) logs in to the
CMS, navigates to the page he wants to change, clicks 'edit', and gets
the current content in a nice and tidy text box (or several), edits
it, presses "save changes", and the job is done.

:-)

and what does the client use to edit the page?

right, a wysiwyg editor.
Impossible answer.

With HTML, "what you get" is structured markup. If what you are
seeing is some kind of visual preview ("what you see is a bit like
what they might get"), then what you are seeing is most certainly NOT
what you got. Just one possible rendering.

If, on the other hand, "what you see" is the structured markup that
*is* "what you get", then you're not talking about the same thing that
others mean when they say "wysiwg". Paradox.

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There's a wysiwyg editor at the heart of every CMS.
You might have seen some which pretend to have such a thing, but with
HTML it's by definition impossible.

The term "wysiwyg" is so often misused in this context, to mean "a
visual previewer", and I deduce that's what you're trying to do here.
But it's a highly confusing usage, and accounts for a lot of
badly-made web pages. You can't create real logical structure just by
visually manipulating lumps of content. MS Word (to take an example)
has recognised that for years already, thanks to its style templates:
a pity that it's rarely taught that way.



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