removing address,tool menu bars

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sun, 09 Dec 2007 22:46:23
GMT Beauregard T. Shagnasty scribed:

Congratulations! You've broken the record with margin to spare!
Five doctypes, head sections, etc., in the same document! Awesome!!!

The odd part is there are only 97 errors... <heh

http://validator.w3.org/check?verbos...Fwww.iddsoftwa
re.co.uk%2Fannouncer%2Fannouncermain.php> This page is not Valid HTML
4.01 Strict! Result: Failed validation, 97 Errors

http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/v...2&warning=2&ur
i=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.iddsoftware.co.uk%2Fannouncer%2 Fannouncermain.php
Numerous CSS errors as well.

The funny part is the ~10% who have JavaScript disabled or stripped by
a corporate firewall will actually get a better deal, although they
can't navigate to about half the site. <g

I love that ugly purple background color!

Purple's my favorite color. Or was.

I must admit to some confusion, myself, however. What could be the
rationale for 5 separate "headings"? -A "Pentagon" page? That might be
neat if one is a warlike, militaristic pig, but I am in spirit a simple
contentious objector. Anyway, it's Sunday, I'm sleepy and admittedly just
fooling around to "hear" myself "talk". Good luck, OP; you probably need
it.

(Oddly, I was in the 97th Corps of Engineers during my halcyon Ghengis
Kahn-mode days.)

--
Bone Ur
Cavemen have formidable pheromones.

On 12/9/2007 11:40 AM, mantrid wrote [in part]:

Why is everyone getting uptight about this?

If you have set a font-size too small for my 66-year-old eyes, I need my
menu bar to change the size.

If you have used a color combination that makes the page unreadable for
my color-blind brother and two cousins (grandpa was color-blind), they
need the toolbar to use their own default colors.

If I see something on the page that piques my interest and I want to
search further, I need my toolbar to launch a new tab in which to do the
search.

Let me and all the other users determine what user interfaces we want
for our browsing experience. Sometimes, what we want is necessary
merely to access the Web.

--
David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com/>

Natural foods can be harmful: Look at all the
people who die of natural causes.

In comp.lang.javascript, alt.html, comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html
message <475C4ED1.5050005 (AT) PointedEars (DOT) de>, Sun, 9 Dec 2007 21:23:45,
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars (AT) web (DOT) de> posted:

2. You have crossposted to three newsgroups, and across two top-level
hierarchies, without Followup-To,

That is perfectly legitimate. You are a control freak with peculiar
ideas. Consult a reputable psychiatrist.

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Web <URL:http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/http/tsfaq.html> -> Timo Salmi: Usenet Q&A.
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No Encoding. Quotes precede replies. Snip well. Write clearly. Mail no News.

"David E. Ross" <nobody (AT) nowhere (DOT) not> wrote

On 12/9/2007 11:40 AM, mantrid wrote [in part]:

Why is everyone getting uptight about this?

If you have set a font-size too small for my 66-year-old eyes, I need my
menu bar to change the size.

Its all done on the admin screen along with fore and back colours, mastheads
and everything else. This is simply an example

If you have used a color combination that makes the page unreadable for
my color-blind brother and two cousins (grandpa was color-blind), they
need the toolbar to use their own default colors.

Its all done on the admin screen along with fore and back colours, mastheads
and everything else. This is simply an example

If I see something on the page that piques my interest and I want to
search further, I need my toolbar to launch a new tab in which to do the
search.

The notice board is simply a display foe messages it is a separate window to
the rest of the site which remains open behind. Besides the noticeboard
simply remains open on the monitor, in a staffroom, reception, office ettc.
The administrator can do any manipulation from their own desktop pc. without
having to pop down to the communal area where the display is. People who
view the screen do just that they simply do not need to manipulate the
window in any way

Let me and all the other users determine what user interfaces we want
for our browsing experience. Sometimes, what we want is necessary
merely to access the Web.

The design is based on user feedback. I am simply changing this service
everytime enough users suggest something. Im just giving them what they
want. Hope this is clearer. What I really dont need is arragant snide
comments about my coding abilities. I am actually a science teacher this is
a hobby for me. How good are you on genetics or microbiology?
Constructive critisism and useful tips appreciated anyone else dont waste
your time posting.

Dr J R Stockton wrote:

In comp.lang.javascript, alt.html, comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html
message <475C4ED1.5050005 (AT) PointedEars (DOT) de>, Sun, 9 Dec 2007 21:23:45,
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars (AT) web (DOT) de> posted:
2. You have crossposted to three newsgroups, and across two top-level
hierarchies, without Followup-To,

That is perfectly legitimate. You are a control freak with peculiar
ideas. Consult a reputable psychiatrist.

Agree, "Major Redirect" here has caught me not noticing the change in
follow-ups on more than one occasion.

Actually I find it really more confusing when a thread "appears"
suddenly mid-discussion without any context in a NG. Yes, it is okay to
truncate the list, but sometimes this guy follow-ups to different NGs. I
feel if the subject is OT better to just announce that alt.xxxxx would
be a better place to start a *new* thread on this topic...

--
Take care,

Jonathan
-------------------
LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:46:10
GMT mantrid scribed:

Let me and all the other users determine what user interfaces we want
for our browsing experience. Sometimes, what we want is necessary
merely to access the Web.


The design is based on user feedback. I am simply changing this
service everytime enough users suggest something. Im just giving them
what they want. Hope this is clearer. What I really dont need is
arragant snide comments about my coding abilities. I am actually a
science teacher this is a hobby for me. How good are you on genetics
or microbiology? Constructive critisism and useful tips appreciated
anyone else dont waste your time posting.

If you're a teacher, how come your spelling and grammar suck? Furthermore,
the "giving them what they want" line is a favorite misdirection of illogic
often used by sneaks and tyrants. Ross is right, and the odds exceed those
of the double recessive that you're a fibber to boot.

How's that for constructive?

--
Bone Ur
Cavemen have formidable pheromones.

In article <Xns9A02926FAD920boneurhyphe (AT) 85 (DOT) 214.90.236>,
Bone Ur <monstersquasher (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

...the odds exceed those
of the double recessive that you're a fibber to boot.

How's that for constructive?

Reminds me of the scene in A Perfect Murder in the train when
Michael Douglas kills Viggo Mortensen, whom he had hired to kill
his own wife, Gwyneth Paltrow.

Viggo Mortensen had earlier criticised Douglas for not being
prepared to kill his own wife because he could not stomach the
"wet work".

As Douglas stabs Mortensen, he says something like: "How's that
for wet work!"

(Yeah I know, you probably haven't seen it... It is a remake of
the classic Dial M for Murder with Ray Milland and Grace Kelly.
Grace Kelly not only survived as did Paltrow, but went on to be a
princess in Europe)

--
dorayme

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:44:12 GMT
dorayme scribed:

...the odds exceed those
of the double recessive that you're a fibber to boot.

How's that for constructive?

Reminds me of the scene in A Perfect Murder in the train when
Michael Douglas kills Viggo Mortensen, whom he had hired to kill
his own wife, Gwyneth Paltrow.

Viggo Mortensen had earlier criticised Douglas for not being
prepared to kill his own wife because he could not stomach the
"wet work".

As Douglas stabs Mortensen, he says something like: "How's that
for wet work!"

(Yeah I know, you probably haven't seen it... It is a remake of
the classic Dial M for Murder with Ray Milland and Grace Kelly.
Grace Kelly not only survived as did Paltrow, but went on to be a
princess in Europe)

Nope, don't recollect seeing it. Might want to, though; the cast sounds
interesting. And, of course, wife-killing has its own integral appeal.

--
Bone Ur
Cavemen have formidable pheromones.

In article <Xns9A02C01393855boneurhyphe (AT) 85 (DOT) 214.90.236>,
Bone Ur <monstersquasher (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

Might want to, though; the cast sounds
interesting. And, of course, wife-killing has its own integral appeal.

Yes, well, you must see it and tell me how the fate that awaits
the 'attempted murderer' appeals to you. Integrally, that is.

--
dorayme

On 12/10/2007 10:46 AM, mantrid wrote:

"David E. Ross" <nobody (AT) nowhere (DOT) not> wrote in message
news:Xv-dnd0hy448XMHanZ2dnUVZ_vCknZ2d (AT) softcom (DOT) net...
On 12/9/2007 11:40 AM, mantrid wrote [in part]:
Why is everyone getting uptight about this?
If you have set a font-size too small for my 66-year-old eyes, I need my
menu bar to change the size.


Its all done on the admin screen along with fore and back colours, mastheads
and everything else. This is simply an example


If you have used a color combination that makes the page unreadable for
my color-blind brother and two cousins (grandpa was color-blind), they
need the toolbar to use their own default colors.


Its all done on the admin screen along with fore and back colours, mastheads
and everything else. This is simply an example

If I see something on the page that piques my interest and I want to
search further, I need my toolbar to launch a new tab in which to do the
search.

The notice board is simply a display foe messages it is a separate window to
the rest of the site which remains open behind. Besides the noticeboard
simply remains open on the monitor, in a staffroom, reception, office ettc.
The administrator can do any manipulation from their own desktop pc. without
having to pop down to the communal area where the display is. People who
view the screen do just that they simply do not need to manipulate the
window in any way

Let me and all the other users determine what user interfaces we want
for our browsing experience. Sometimes, what we want is necessary
merely to access the Web.


The design is based on user feedback. I am simply changing this service
everytime enough users suggest something. Im just giving them what they
want. Hope this is clearer. What I really dont need is arragant snide
comments about my coding abilities. I am actually a science teacher this is
a hobby for me. How good are you on genetics or microbiology?
Constructive critisism and useful tips appreciated anyone else dont waste
your time posting.

Overall, it appears that the pages you want to create will implement
features that already exist in modern browsers. This is termed
"reinventing the wheel".

While I'm not an educator, my daughter is. She specializes in distance
learning for adults at both a community college and a university, mostly
over the Web and for a very broad spectrum of subjects (nursing,
continuing education for doctors, automotive repair). We frequently
discuss her career activities (which sometimes includes presenting
papers at international conferences of educators). When someone asks
her for a "new" feature that is already inherent in most browsers, she
tells them how to use their browser rather than implement what the
browser already provides. In the end, the students appreciate the
ability to retain control of their own configurations.

--
David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com/>

Natural foods can be harmful: Look at all the
people who die of natural causes.