Re: HTML & CSS Problems - Newbie

Michael R. Copeland wrote:

I am trying to build a prototype Web site, but I am having to learn
many aspects of HTML and CSS as I do. I am completely new to CSS, and
there are a number of HTML tags I don't understand (e.g. <div>, <span>),
but am using some because I've cannabilized some code here. Thus, I have
code that I don't understand and that isn't working... 8<{{
The problems I'm seeing here are:
1. Each menu's item data is progressively shifted to the right. That
is, the "History" paragraphs are fine, but the paragraphs that follow
("Sales", "Photos", "Neighborhood") are shifted/indented. I don't
understand why and don't know how to correct it...
2. The links don't work. I don't know why.
I have tweaked my code to this point, but nothing has worked so far.
Please advise. TIA

Provide a URL.


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I am trying to build a prototype Web site, but I am having to learn
many aspects of HTML and CSS as I do. I am completely new to CSS, and
there are a number of HTML tags I don't understand (e.g. <div>, <span>),
but am using some because I've cannabilized some code here. Thus, I have
code that I don't understand and that isn't working... 8<{{
The problems I'm seeing here are:
1. Each menu's item data is progressively shifted to the right. That
is, the "History" paragraphs are fine, but the paragraphs that follow
("Sales", "Photos", "Neighborhood") are shifted/indented. I don't
understand why and don't know how to correct it...
2. The links don't work. I don't know why.
I have tweaked my code to this point, but nothing has worked so far.
Please advise. TIA

Provide a URL.

I can't. Even though I have contracted with a Web host, I don't want
to upload code that really doesn't work at all. I've been using HTML-
Kit and Internet Explorer & FireFox to view the code, and it looks poor
in both.
I realize that I posted a (too) large amount of code, but it wasn't
until I had this much that I began seeing the problems. If there's a
better way to develop Web code, I'd appreciate learning about it... 8<}}

On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 07:47:32 -0700, mrc2323 (AT) cox (DOT) net (Michael R.
Copeland) wrote:

Provide a URL.

I can't.

Of course you can. And until you do, a whole bunch of newsgroup readers
will ignore your posts.

Post a URL

Provide a URL.

I can't.

Of course you can. And until you do, a whole bunch of newsgroup readers
will ignore your posts.

Post a URL

In fairness I don't know what to do: if I am using a WYSIWYG editor

to develop something that isn't on a Web host (because I'm developing a
Web site), how can I post an URL? Since this is (as yet) a non-existant
site, how can do this?

Of historical note on Sun, 30 Mar 2008 13:16:19 -0700
mrc2323 (AT) cox (DOT) net (Michael R. Copeland) scribed:

Provide a URL.

I can't.

Of course you can. And until you do, a whole bunch of newsgroup readers
will ignore your posts.

Post a URL

In fairness I don't know what to do: if I am using a WYSIWYG editor
to develop something that isn't on a Web host (because I'm developing a
Web site), how can I post an URL? Since this is (as yet) a non-existant
site, how can do this?

Michael

Place the pages you're working on into a sub-folder that doesn't allow search engine access via a robots.txt in the root. That way you can provide a url to the group but the general public (those outside the group) will never see what you're working on.
<http://www.robotstxt.org/>
<http://www.robotstxt.org/orig.html>

This also allows you to use such online tools as Browsershots and the W3C HTML and CSS validators.
<http://browsershots.org/>

You may also want to look into munging your e-mail address when you post.
<http://www.faqs.org/faqs/net-abuse-faq/munging-address/>

hth
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Sun, 30 Mar 2008 13:16:19 -0700 from Michael R. Copeland <mrc2323
@cox.net>:

Provide a URL.

I can't.

Of course you can. And until you do, a whole bunch of newsgroup readers
will ignore your posts.

Post a URL

In fairness I don't know what to do: if I am using a WYSIWYG editor
to develop something that isn't on a Web host (because I'm developing a
Web site), how can I post an URL? Since this is (as yet) a non-existant
site, how can do this?

Oh come on -- this isn't rocket surgery. Put your HTML and CSS up on
a Web site somewhere.

It's your prerogative not to do that, but you will *severely* limit
the number of people who are willing to help you, because you are
then asking us to put your HTML and CSS on a server to try it out. If
you're not willing to do that, why would you expect us to be?

Also, please use proper attributions when quoting.
http://oakroadsystems.com/genl/unice.htm#attrib

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http://OakRoadSystems.com/
HTML 4.01 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/
validator: http://validator.w3.org/
CSS 2.1 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/
validator: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/
Why We Won't Help You:
http://diveintomark.org/archives/200..._wont_help_you

Provide a URL.

I can't.

Of course you can. And until you do, a whole bunch of newsgroup readers
will ignore your posts.

Post a URL

In fairness I don't know what to do: if I am using a WYSIWYG editor
to develop something that isn't on a Web host (because I'm developing a
Web site), how can I post an URL? Since this is (as yet) a non-existant
site, how can do this?

Oh come on -- this isn't rocket surgery. Put your HTML and CSS up on
a Web site somewhere.

That's my problem: I don't _have_access_ to a Web site yet: I'm
developing prototype code before I commit to purchasing a Web site.
Please note that I'm retired and don't have business/work resources from
which I could do this sort of stuff.
I'm well aware of the need to be responsible in my NG posting (show
my work, keep the posts to a reasonable size, etc.), and I'm _not_
trying to be difficult or petulant. I'm not in the position (like the
rest of you guys) to operate via an existing Web site: that may come if
my project (for the building I live in) is accepted and used.

It's your prerogative not to do that, but you will *severely* limit
the number of people who are willing to help you, because you are
then asking us to put your HTML and CSS on a server to try it out. If
you're not willing to do that, why would you expect us to be?

As I say above, I don't have the capability yet, and I'm only trying
to get something to demonstrate to my HOA board...

Also, please use proper attributions when quoting.
http://oakroadsystems.com/genl/unice.htm#attrib

Hmmm...I thought that I was trying to keep quoting to a minimum.
Sorry. 8<{{

In article <MPG.225a091f9f1fa0509896f4 (AT) news (DOT) cox.net>,
mrc2323 (AT) cox (DOT) net (Michael R. Copeland) wrote:

Oh come on -- this isn't rocket surgery. Put your HTML and CSS up on
a Web site somewhere.

That's my problem: I don't _have_access_ to a Web site yet: I'm
developing prototype code before I commit to purchasing a Web site.
Please note that I'm retired and don't have business/work resources from
which I could do this sort of stuff.
I'm well aware of the need to be responsible

Michael, you can easily get web space for free. Only today someone
posted a link to one... where is it... just a mo...

<http://www.000webhost.com/>

Check it out.

Plus your own ISP might allow you a little space too as part of your
contract.

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Of historical note on Sun, 30 Mar 2008 20:32:09 -0700
mrc2323 (AT) cox (DOT) net (Michael R. Copeland) scribed:

Provide a URL.

I can't.

Of course you can. And until you do, a whole bunch of newsgroup readers
will ignore your posts.

Post a URL

In fairness I don't know what to do: if I am using a WYSIWYG editor
to develop something that isn't on a Web host (because I'm developing a
Web site), how can I post an URL? Since this is (as yet) a non-existant
site, how can do this?

Oh come on -- this isn't rocket surgery. Put your HTML and CSS up on
a Web site somewhere.

That's my problem: I don't _have_access_ to a Web site yet: I'm
developing prototype code before I commit to purchasing a Web site.
Please note that I'm retired and don't have business/work resources from
which I could do this sort of stuff.
I'm well aware of the need to be responsible in my NG posting (show
my work, keep the posts to a reasonable size, etc.), and I'm _not_
trying to be difficult or petulant. I'm not in the position (like the
rest of you guys) to operate via an existing Web site: that may come if
my project (for the building I live in) is accepted and used.

It's your prerogative not to do that, but you will *severely* limit
the number of people who are willing to help you, because you are
then asking us to put your HTML and CSS on a server to try it out. If
you're not willing to do that, why would you expect us to be?

As I say above, I don't have the capability yet, and I'm only trying
to get something to demonstrate to my HOA board...

Also, please use proper attributions when quoting.
http://oakroadsystems.com/genl/unice.htm#attrib

Hmmm...I thought that I was trying to keep quoting to a minimum.
Sorry. 8<{{

Michael,

Check this site out:

Free Web Hosting
<http://www.free-webhosts.com/>

They have over 200 hosts that provide free hosting. Sorry I can't recommend any from their listing as I've not used any. Also their listings do show what type of server, amount of disk space, transfer allowance, type of uploading allowed and so on.

hth
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Of historical note on Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:06:05 -0800
Blinky the Shark <no.spam (AT) box (DOT) invalid> scribed:

Michael R. Copeland wrote:

[and deeper attributions have been killed by Michael R. Copeland]

Post a URL

In fairness I don't know what to do: if I am using a WYSIWYG editor

That shouldn't matter. If it does for some reason I can't think of, stop
using what-you-see-probably-isn't-what-your-users-are-going-to-see tools.

to develop something that isn't on a Web host (because I'm developing
a Web site), how can I post an URL? Since this is (as yet) a
non-existant site, how can do this?

Oh come on -- this isn't rocket surgery. Put your HTML and CSS up on a
Web site somewhere.

That's my problem: I don't _have_access_ to a Web site yet: I'm
developing prototype code before I commit to purchasing a Web site.
Please

1. Have you shopped for hosts, so that you realize you can get hosted for
very little outlay

2. Use a free host until you're ready to commit to a pay host; then
transfer your site and hosting there when you feel ready.

snip

Also, please use proper attributions when quoting.
http://oakroadsystems.com/genl/unice.htm#attrib

Hmmm...I thought that I was trying to keep quoting to a minimum.
Sorry. 8<{{

Trimming is an excellent habit. But so is attributing what you *do*
quote. In your speech this Thursday, you're going to quote a couple of
passages from Norman Mailer. Just because you're not quoting his whole
book doesn't mean that you don't credit the passages you *are* using.


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Adding to what Blinky said, many free hosts do not even require you to have your own domain name, they host you as a sub-domain, i.e.,
<http://yourname.example.com>
with example.com being the hosting company.

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