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Keeping Web Page at Fixed Width -
09-08-2003
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How do I keep my entire web page at a fixed width? |
Page layout should be specified in terms of percentages, which allow the
pages to be flexible. This allows for a more efficient use of screen real
estate and puts the user back in control of his or her web surfing
experience.
Usability studies substantiate very clearly that this is a preference of web
users. It is unfortunately a realization that has not soaked into a lot of
the largest companies in the world.
Human Factors International
http://www.humanfactors.com/downloads/oct022.htm
Real World Browser Size Stats
http://evolt.org/article/Real_World_...297/index.html
Getting a perfect fit
http://webdesignclinic.com/ezine/v1i...fit/index.html
Sizing Up The Browsers
http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/99/41/index3a.html
What size monitor screen or browser window should I design for?
http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?AnySizeDesign
--
Karl Core
Charles Sweeney says my sig is fine as it is.
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"SoloCDM" <deedsmis (AT) aculink (DOT) net> wrote in message news:3F5D18EB.1050002 (AT) aculink (DOT) net... How do I keep my entire web page at a fixed width? Why would you want to do that? Page layout should be specified in terms of percentages, which allow the pages to be flexible. This allows for a more efficient use of screen real estate and puts the user back in control of his or her web surfing experience. Usability studies substantiate very clearly that this is a preference of web users. It is unfortunately a realization that has not soaked into a lot of the largest companies in the world. Human Factors International http://www.humanfactors.com/downloads/oct022.htm Real World Browser Size Stats http://evolt.org/article/Real_World_...297/index.html Getting a perfect fit http://webdesignclinic.com/ezine/v1i...fit/index.html Sizing Up The Browsers http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/99/41/index3a.html What size monitor screen or browser window should I design for? http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?AnySizeDesign |
references use control over the width of their web pages, which
clearly contradicts their preaching.
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Signed,
SoloCDM
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How do I keep my entire web page at a fixed width? |
Otherwise, expect that people will see it at different widths. This
is a good thing, not a bad thing as you seem to think.
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Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cortland County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
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CSS 2 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/
2.1 changes: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/changes.html
validator: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/
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EightNineThree wrote: "SoloCDM" <deedsmis (AT) aculink (DOT) net> wrote in message news:3F5D18EB.1050002 (AT) aculink (DOT) net... How do I keep my entire web page at a fixed width? Why would you want to do that? Page layout should be specified in terms of percentages, which allow the pages to be flexible. This allows for a more efficient use of screen real estate and puts the user back in control of his or her web surfing experience. Usability studies substantiate very clearly that this is a preference of web users. It is unfortunately a realization that has not soaked into a lot of the largest companies in the world. snip Some things look sloppy if spread out. Even some of your link references use control over the width of their web pages, which clearly contradicts their preaching. |
"Usability studies substantiate very clearly that this is a preference of
web users."
Do you have any empirical evidence to contradict this?
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Karl Core
Charles Sweeney says my sig is fine as it is.
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Some things look sloppy if spread out. |
the user is free to make his/her window a bit narrower. That only takes
a moment. But if your fixed page width is too large for the reader's
screen, he/she is stuck.
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Stephen Poley
http://www.xs4all.nl/~sbpoley/webmatters/
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"SoloCDM" <deedsmis (AT) aculink (DOT) net> wrote in message news:3F5D18EB.1050002 (AT) aculink (DOT) net... How do I keep my entire web page at a fixed width? Why would you want to do that? |
don't know either the context or the application.
If you don't know the answer, stay out.
oj
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Page layout should be specified in terms of percentages, which allow the pages to be flexible. This allows for a more efficient use of screen real estate and puts the user back in control of his or her web surfing experience. Usability studies substantiate very clearly that this is a preference of web users. It is unfortunately a realization that has not soaked into a lot of the largest companies in the world. Human Factors International http://www.humanfactors.com/downloads/oct022.htm Real World Browser Size Stats http://evolt.org/article/Real_World_...297/index.html Getting a perfect fit http://webdesignclinic.com/ezine/v1i...fit/index.html Sizing Up The Browsers http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/99/41/index3a.html What size monitor screen or browser window should I design for? http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?AnySizeDesign |
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Why can't you answer peoples questions without preaching to them? |
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You don't know either the context or the application. |
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html: eacn of those elements has a
reason for being there and sets the context of the discourse.
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How do I keep my entire web page at a fixed width? ************************************************** ******************* Signed, SoloCDM |
the required width and put the page contents inside. It doesn't have
to be a single table, you can run a succession of tables each to the
required width (heading, intro, body text, footer, etc, down the
page). This has worked for me on several sites.
I take on board everything the naysayers have hit you with about
leaving it to the viewer to decide the width they view at; however, I
have also seen sites whose designs have been destroyed by width
expansion.
In my (purely empirical/anecdotal) experience, the majority of
computer users are not sophisticated enough (or care enough about what
they're looking at or interested enough to take the trouble - take
your pick) to keep adjusting their window size in an effort to find
what the page designer was trying to achieve. They have their browser
set to screen size and take the pages as they come. I also think it
somewhat arrogant of designers to expect users to change their
settings in order to achieve the best design view.
Why shouldn't we designers give what we believe to be the best
presentation of our work, or more often our clients'
products/services? Surely we can have the same freedom of expression
as anyone else.
peter stokes
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"SoloCDM" <deedsmis (AT) aculink (DOT) net> wrote in message news:3F5D18EB.1050002 (AT) aculink (DOT) net... How do I keep my entire web page at a fixed width? Why would you want to do that? Page layout should be specified in terms of percentages, which allow the pages to be flexible. This allows for a more efficient use of screen real estate and puts the user back in control of his or her web surfing experience. Usability studies substantiate very clearly that this is a preference of web users. It is unfortunately a realization that has not soaked into a lot of the largest companies in the world. |
One wonders how readers of books and magazines have managed all these years!
Has there ever been a call by the magazine reading community for publishers
just to mail them sequences of words with annotations as to their respective
roles, so that the readers could produce their own mock-ups to enjoy?
Believe it or not, many producers of web-based material are trying to
provide a specific and approximately consistent appearance to people having
one of several current-day browers (including Netscape 4.x, etc.). The small
portion of the population that wants to shrink the browser to a window 200
pixels wide and 600 high, or 1000 wide and 100 high, and still have a
legible presentation is not really a fundamental target.
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