How to set default font size to small for a page's body?

Don Li wrote:

On Apr 16, 12:42 pm, "Beauregard T. Shagnasty"
a.nony.m... (AT) example (DOT) invalid> wrote:
Don Li wrote:
You're confused with my follow-up note, "not likely to know to how to
change font size" is not equal to "will be unable to change the size
of their text".
Whether or not your visitors know how to change the font size in their
browsers is no reason for you to penalize those who don't.

Think flexible. The Web is not paper. And we do not have your eyes.

Just answer the question if you are able to, like yes, one can set a
default font size to this or that for a page, here's how, no, you
can't.
Sure you can. Set it for 100%.


Why setting it to 85% or 80% is not working for IE7?

Originally by "not working" you explained that you meant that the IE
setting remained Medium, and I already told you that of course the
setting will remain Medium, that's not what setting the font size in CSS
does. So if that's still what you mean by "not working" then the answer
is still, "That's not what it's *supposed* to do."

On Apr 16, 1:40*pm, "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4... (AT) central (DOT) net> wrote:

Don Li wrote:
On Apr 16, 12:53 pm, Andreas Prilop <prilop2... (AT) trashmail (DOT) net> wrote:
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008, Don Li wrote:
Set it for 100%.
Why setting it to 85% or 80% is not working for IE7?
80% is small-print - appropriate when you want to deceive people
and hide important information in your contracts.

Are you a lawyer?

I used to believe in reincarnation in a former life.

Good * Problem resolved. * Just don't know why it got many so
worked up.

We hoped, (unsuccessfully is this case) to stop the perpetuation of
poorly design, inflexible, unaccessible websites that currently pollute
the web. The attitudes expressed here underscore the frustration some of
your visitors will experience when they wish to visit your site but just
cannot read the damn text...

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This is really a catch-22 situation. On one hand, if the home page
(starting page) using a smaller font size, subsequent pages do not
look good while leaving the default font size to 100% does not make
the starting page look good.

Don Li wrote:

This is really a catch-22 situation. On one hand, if the home page
(starting page) using a smaller font size, subsequent pages do not
look good while leaving the default font size to 100% does not make
the starting page look good.

No. Use default font size of 100% on all pages, there is no Catch-22.

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Jonathan
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In article
<396adece-c662-4d91-abe5-862daa8f51ad (AT) a22g2000hsc (DOT) googlegroups.com>,
Don Li <tatata9999 (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

On Apr 16, 1:40*pm, "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4... (AT) central (DOT) net> wrote:
Don Li wrote:
On Apr 16, 12:53 pm, Andreas Prilop <prilop2... (AT) trashmail (DOT) net> wrote:
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008, Don Li wrote:
Set it for 100%.
Why setting it to 85% or 80% is not working for IE7?
80% is small-print - appropriate when you want to deceive people
and hide important information in your contracts.
[snip]

This is really a catch-22 situation. On one hand, if the home page
(starting page) using a smaller font size, subsequent pages do not
look good while leaving the default font size to 100% does not make
the starting page look good.

So reconsider your content and design goals for the starting page.

You mentioned elsewhere that the content you wanted on this start
page "wouldn't fit" unless you reduced the text size, at least as
far as the monitor size/resolution/window size/browser defaults
you personally use to view your own work.

If those settings can be considered as being "typical" (whatever
that means and however you would determine that), then the only
way to achieve your goals without different size fonts on the
starting vs. subsequent pages is to either (1) accept some horizontal
scrolling or (2) reduce the actual content somehow.

I've had to deal with the same problem. You're right, in that
there is something about having all the relevant information
clearly visible at once without having to scroll; but that only
works if it's legible!

On 4/16/2008 6:58 AM, Don Li wrote:

I've tried
body style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica;font-size:0.8em;"
or
body style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica;font-size:11pct;"
or
body style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica;font-size:80%;"
to no avail. In IE7 it shows up as Medium. What did I do wrong?

Thanks.

Whatever you do, I will use my Font- and Font+ buttons to set the size
to something I can read, thus undoing whatever you have done to set the
size of your body font.

As others have indicated, you should leave the body of your page at the
font size each user has already set in his or her browser preferences.
Then set titles, footnotes, and other non-body text at sizes larger or
smaller relative to the body font.

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Then use SeaMonkey. Go to <http://www.seamonkey-project.org/>.

David E. Ross <nobody (AT) nowhere (DOT) not> wrote:

Whatever you do, I will use my Font- and Font+ buttons to set the size
to something I can read, thus undoing whatever you have done to set the
size of your body font.

Others of us simply configure our browsers to enforce a minimum font size,
and/or add

html, body { font-size: 100% !important }

to a user style sheet.
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Why is "abbreviated" such a long word?

On Wed, 16 Apr 2008, Darin McGrew wrote:

and/or add

html, body { font-size: 100% !important }

to a user style sheet.

I have that setting, too, and it reveals how broken Wikipedia's
styles are. I don't want to inspect their stylesheets in detail
but it seems they have first set the BODY size to something small
and then the P size to something larger.

Wikipedia looks really stupid in this way. They don't understand
how to set up a decent stylesheet.

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Andreas Prilop wrote:

On Wed, 16 Apr 2008, Darin McGrew wrote:

and/or add

html, body { font-size: 100% !important }

to a user style sheet.

I have that setting, too, and it reveals how broken Wikipedia's
styles are. I don't want to inspect their stylesheets in detail
but it seems they have first set the BODY size to something small
and then the P size to something larger.

Wikipedia looks really stupid in this way. They don't understand
how to set up a decent stylesheet.

Look at this one too, 'nough said!

http://i2.microsoft.com/shared/core/1/css/core.css


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Jonathan
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http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

In article <Pine.GSO.4.63.0804171632440.15083 (AT) s5b004 (DOT) rrzn.uni-hannover.de>, Andreas Prilop writes:

On Wed, 16 Apr 2008, Darin McGrew wrote:

html, body { font-size: 100% !important }

to a user style sheet.

I have that setting, too, and it reveals how broken Wikipedia's
styles are.

I used to have it, but I dropped it so that I could read Wikipedia.

but it seems they have first set the BODY size to something small
and then the P size to something larger.

I was wondering what it was.

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Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Look at this one too, 'nough said!

http://i2.microsoft.com/shared/core/1/css/core.css

I can top that in ... one note? :-)

http://my.att.net/

There is no CSS file; all ~600 lines ar embedded in every page.

Morons. Wonder what they paid for the piece of work...

Love how it scales when you bump the font up just once!

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Take care,

Jonathan
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http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com