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Default Re: Can I assume that Netscape = Firefox? - 12-23-2005 , 12:16 PM






On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 00:29:43 +0000, Spartanicus wrote:

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Unless the site contains a handheld stylesheet, Opera's small screen
rendering uses a proprietary method to fit a normal site onto a small
screen. Opera's SSR only emulates what a user will get when they use a
small screen device that uses Opera as the browser.
That's good to know. So what is a designer to do if he doesn't
have access to a small screen device on which to test?

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Default Re: Can I assume that Netscape = Firefox? - 12-23-2005 , 01:17 PM






Warren Post <wpost.nospam (AT) hondutel (DOT) hn> wrote:

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Unless the site contains a handheld stylesheet, Opera's small screen
rendering uses a proprietary method to fit a normal site onto a small
screen. Opera's SSR only emulates what a user will get when they use a
small screen device that uses Opera as the browser.

That's good to know. So what is a designer to do if he doesn't
have access to a small screen device on which to test?
Proper testing of compatibility with small screen devices requires
direct access to as many such devices as you can get your hands on. Some
support CSS (with varying success), others don't support CSS at all,
some support handheld stylesheets, others don't, etc. etc.

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Default Re: Can I assume that Netscape = Firefox? - 12-24-2005 , 06:23 AM



Spartanicus:
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Unless the site contains a handheld stylesheet, Opera's small screen
rendering uses a proprietary method to fit a normal site onto a small
screen. Opera's SSR only emulates what a user will get when they use a
small screen device that uses Opera as the browser.
Warren Post:
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That's good to know. So what is a designer to do if he doesn't have access
to a small screen device on which to test?
At the most basic level, learn to design sites that don't depend on any
style (however you'd apply it). If the site reads out coherently, that's
a good indication.

Read it out loud, linear fashion (as coded, don't make a human
interpretation and read a column of text separately from adjacent
navigational links, unless they're really written one after another), as
if dictating it to someone. If it becomes incoherent, a redesign is in
order.

Similarly related, is making a page over complex (multiple columns, lots
of stuff unrelated to the main topic, etc.). Want a bad example page,
try: <http://www.tomshardware.com/>, it's got everything and the kitchen
sink crammed into the homepage. It's bad enough with a large browsing
window...

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Default Re: Can I assume that Netscape = Firefox? - 12-24-2005 , 05:30 PM



All excellent advice that more people should follow generally, not just if
they want to be handheld friendly. Thanks.

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Default Re: Can I assume that Netscape = Firefox? - 12-24-2005 , 05:31 PM



On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 18:17:53 +0000, Spartanicus wrote:

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Proper testing of compatibility with small screen devices requires direct
access to as many such devices as you can get your hands on.
Then I hope Santa brings me that handheld I asked for and not another lump
of coal like last year.

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