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Kevin Raleigh
 
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Default what browser to test for - 08-05-2008 , 10:46 PM






I am currently testing the following browsers on my Debian/Linux system.

IE 5, 5.5, 6,
Firefox/Iceweasel
Opera

Is this sufficient for testing web pages?
I don't think I need to test for all browsers, and of course using linux
there are probably some browsers that I won't be able to test for, but I
would appreciate your intelligent answer.

thank you
Kevin

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Default Re: what browser to test for - 08-05-2008 , 10:50 PM






In article <VdadnTIiF5PkjQTVnZ2dnUVZ_qrinZ2d (AT) giganews (DOT) com>,
Kevin Raleigh <kraleigh (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote:

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I am currently testing the following browsers on my Debian/Linux system.

IE 5, 5.5, 6,
Firefox/Iceweasel
Opera

Is this sufficient for testing web pages?
I don't think I need to test for all browsers, and of course using linux
there are probably some browsers that I won't be able to test for, but I
would appreciate your intelligent answer.

Considering that the vast majority of Internet users use Internet
Explorer, what do you think?

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Default Re: what browser to test for - 08-05-2008 , 11:28 PM



"Kevin Raleigh" <kraleigh (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote

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I am currently testing the following browsers on my Debian/Linux system.

IE 5, 5.5, 6,
Firefox/Iceweasel
Opera

Is this sufficient for testing web pages?
I don't think I need to test for all browsers, and of course using linux
there are probably some browsers that I won't be able to test for, but I
would appreciate your intelligent answer.
Test what you have access to and use browsershots.org for the rest



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Default Re: what browser to test for - 08-05-2008 , 11:52 PM



In article <g7b5n8$vkj$1 (AT) registered (DOT) motzarella.org>,
"Nik Coughlin" <nrkn.com (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

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"Kevin Raleigh" <kraleigh (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:VdadnTIiF5PkjQTVnZ2dnUVZ_qrinZ2d (AT) giganews (DOT) com...
I am currently testing the following browsers on my Debian/Linux system.

IE 5, 5.5, 6,
Firefox/Iceweasel
Opera

Is this sufficient for testing web pages?
I don't think I need to test for all browsers, and of course using linux
there are probably some browsers that I won't be able to test for, but I
would appreciate your intelligent answer.

Test what you have access to and use browsershots.org for the rest
Better than nothing of course, but be prepared for surprises on IE when
you actually get your hands on a winbox and test drive the browser,
changing fonts, changing browser size etc.

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Default Re: what browser to test for - 08-06-2008 , 12:12 AM



Kevin Raleigh wrote:

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I am currently testing the following browsers on my Debian/Linux system.

IE 5, 5.5, 6,
Firefox/Iceweasel
Opera

Is this sufficient for testing web pages?
I don't think I need to test for all browsers, and of course using linux
there are probably some browsers that I won't be able to test for, but I
would appreciate your intelligent answer.
Testing with Konqueror shouldn't be a problem with Linux.

Ditto lynx.


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Default Re: what browser to test for - 08-06-2008 , 09:04 AM



On Aug 5, 11:28*pm, "Nik Coughlin" <nrkn.... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
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"Kevin Raleigh" <krale... (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote in message

Test what you have access to and use browsershots.org for the rest
What a great site!


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Default Re: what browser to test for - 08-06-2008 , 12:43 PM



On 6 Aug, 03:46, Kevin Raleigh <krale... (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote:

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Is this sufficient for testing web pages?
In practice, this approach leads to _worse_ sites.

Test for validity and good practice first. Use one of the well-behaved
browsers as your initial working platform. If you test correctly
against the objective standards (this includes CSS validity) and you
follow good practices such as Strict DTDs, appropriate doctype
declarations, standards-mode rendering and avoiding features that are
known to be poorly supported, then you'll see good cross-browser
results even before you begin testing.

_Only_then_ start worrying about other browsers.

If your approach to "cross browser" begins with "my browser", then
"another browser", then particularly if one of these is IE, then
you'll make your work _worse_. This is especially true in teams, where
one coder might understand the real issues, but the average team
member doesn't.

Obviously I'm not saying "Don't test on IE". But don't test on IE
until you _already_ have standards-based testing in place, and use
good practices rather than focussing on the "throw it at IE until it
looks right" way.


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Default Re: what browser to test for - 09-06-2008 , 01:12 PM



Kevin Raleigh wrote:
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I am currently testing the following browsers on my Debian/Linux system.

IE 5, 5.5, 6,
Firefox/Iceweasel
Opera

Is this sufficient for testing web pages?
No, you should also test in a KHTML rendering engine (safari or konqueror).

Garrett

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