Viewing in Different Browsers

Andy Dingley <dingbat (AT) codesmiths (DOT) com> writes:

On 27 Nov, 16:34, Sherman Pendley <spamt... (AT) dot-app (DOT) org> wrote:
Andy Dingley <ding... (AT) codesmiths (DOT) com> writes:
It's also well worth having a simple Unix server at home running
Apache, and that isn't the same PC as your Windows desktop. An old PC
will do, just install Ubuntu on it. Shouldn't cost more than a few
quid for a network cable and a hub.

If space and/or funds are limited, an instance of Linux running under
VirtualPC will suffice.

That takes memory though. I've an endless supply of old PCs that are
fit for nothing else than being a low-load non-production web server,
but I always find it hard to squeeze extra memory onto old
motherboards that require some weird format you can't find any more
and are running out of spare slots.

Certainly - I've done that too. I'm not disagreeing with that approach,
just pointing out that other options exist too. Horses for courses, and
all that. :-)

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Andy Dingley wrote:

It's also well worth having a simple Unix server at home running
Apache, and that isn't the same PC as your Windows desktop. An old PC
will do, just install Ubuntu on it. Shouldn't cost more than a few
quid for a network cable and a hub.

I manage quite well with Apache under my Windows system.
http://swiftys.org.uk/ — I already had the swiftys.org.uk domain for my
"real" website, so I just pointed swiftys.org.uk at my desktop here at home.

The only drawback so far is that the Windows filesystem is
case-insensitive, so it leads me into sloppy ways not tolerated by
apache under Linux or AIX.

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Steve Swift
http://www.swiftys.org.uk/swifty.html
http://www.ringers.org.uk

On 28 Nov, 06:58, Steve Swift <Steve.J.Sw... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

I manage quite well with Apache under my Windows system.

Apache works pretty well under Windows these days, which certainly
wasn't the case not too long ago. However your hosting is still likely
to be Unix-based, so a bit of hands on knowledge gained at home with
no pressure is always going to come in handy.

For that matter, you still need shell access on a Windows box, so
install Cygwin (a Unix-like Bash-derived command-line shell that runs
under Windows, runs on the Windows filesystem, but makes it look
broadly like a Unix environment). This is a capable command-line shell
in the way that the Windows command prompt is still anything but! (How
do they ever get any work done at Redmond?) You'll also pick up enough
entry-level Unix command line experience to get by for most simple
tasks on your host.

Andy Dingley wrote:

I manage quite well with Apache under my Windows system.

Apache works pretty well under Windows these days, which certainly
wasn't the case not too long ago. However your hosting is still likely
to be Unix-based, so a bit of hands on knowledge gained at home with
no pressure is always going to come in handy.

For that matter, you still need shell access on a Windows box, so
install Cygwin (a Unix-like Bash-derived command-line shell that runs
under Windows, runs on the Windows filesystem, but makes it look
broadly like a Unix environment). This is a capable command-line shell
in the way that the Windows command prompt is still anything but! (How
do they ever get any work done at Redmond?) You'll also pick up enough
entry-level Unix command line experience to get by for most simple
tasks on your host.

Hey...

Thanks guys for the advice on establishing a basic host on my PC. You are
right, if I plan to have my site work it would only make sense to setup some
inexpensive hosting program.

But, how much memory would I need for that? Right now I only have 2.58 Gigs
of RAM. Do I need to upgrade and if so how much?

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In article <7bebcfc07171e@uwe>,
"LayneMitch via WebmasterKB.com" <u39402@uwe> wrote:

Andy Dingley wrote:
I manage quite well with Apache under my Windows system.

Apache works pretty well under Windows these days, which certainly
wasn't the case not too long ago. However your hosting is still likely
to be Unix-based, so a bit of hands on knowledge gained at home with
no pressure is always going to come in handy.

For that matter, you still need shell access on a Windows box, so
install Cygwin (a Unix-like Bash-derived command-line shell that runs
under Windows, runs on the Windows filesystem, but makes it look
broadly like a Unix environment). This is a capable command-line shell
in the way that the Windows command prompt is still anything but! (How
do they ever get any work done at Redmond?) You'll also pick up enough
entry-level Unix command line experience to get by for most simple
tasks on your host.

Hey...

Thanks guys for the advice on establishing a basic host on my PC. You are
right, if I plan to have my site work it would only make sense to setup some
inexpensive hosting program.

But, how much memory would I need for that? Right now I only have 2.58 Gigs
of RAM. Do I need to upgrade and if so how much?

Gosh, 2.5 + Gb! I have a server run on a windows 2000 box, Apache
and the thing has less than 500MB of Ram. I don't think RAM is
something a home server on your working machine gobbles up for
most things you are likely to be wanting.

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dorayme

On 29 Nov, 04:46, "LayneMitch via WebmasterKB.com" <u39402@uwe> wrote:

But, how much memory would I need for that? Right now I only have 2.58 Gigs
of RAM. Do I need to upgrade and if so how much?

That's plenty to start running virtual machines in it.

My Windows desktop has 2GB in it and I use about 1.3GB tops. One of
the main memory hogs is TortoiseSVN (the version-control client). Only
if I fire up SQL Server on my desktop machine too do I statrt to use
1.9GB or so.

LayneMitch via WebmasterKB.com wrote:

But, how much memory would I need for that? Right now I only have 2.58 Gigs
of RAM. Do I need to upgrade and if so how much?

It depends on how much work your apache has to do, but if that is just
supporting a test site for your own use that is not much.

My apache is currently using less than 17Mb — it's very efficient.

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Steve Swift
http://www.swiftys.org.uk/swifty.html
http://www.ringers.org.uk