trying to get consistency in appearance of 18-pt-high icons

On Dec 9, 9:40*am, Irina Rempt <ir... (AT) valdyas (DOT) org> wrote:

On Monday 08 December 2008 22:28, dorayme wrote:

mmm... was using aeiou.org newsserver yesterday for posts and I posted
on this one, the Optus newserver was not working (at least on my
machine). I sometimes wonder if the newserver one uses to post affects
who can see it via other newservers...

I thought for a while that my ISP's news server wasn't showing posts from
news.individual.net, but it turned out that Konqueror wasn't showing posts
made with MacSOUP. There just happened to be a strong correlation, on the
newsgroup I noticed it on, between using MacSOUP and posting from
individual.net.

In other words, could it be the posting agent rather than the news server?

I downloaded Thunderbird and tried that but I am having trouble
connecting to either of the news servers I use. Optus and aeio.org. No
idea what is happening, i might have to ring my ISP. I hate ever
having to.

On Wednesday 10 December 2008 01:57, dorayme wrote:

[can't see own posts, or something]

I downloaded Thunderbird and tried that but I am having trouble
connecting to either of the news servers I use. Optus and aeio.org. No
idea what is happening, i might have to ring my ISP. I hate ever
having to.

Thunderbird solved all my problems, but I mostly avoid it nevertheless
because I hate the cluttered interface. It does seem to be an ISP problem
in your case.

Irina

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In article <493f694e$0$192$e4fe514c (AT) news (DOT) xs4all.nl>,
Irina Rempt <irina (AT) valdyas (DOT) org> wrote:

On Wednesday 10 December 2008 01:57, dorayme wrote:

[can't see own posts, or something]

I downloaded Thunderbird and tried that but I am having trouble
connecting to either of the news servers I use. Optus and aeio.org. No
idea what is happening, i might have to ring my ISP. I hate ever
having to.

Thunderbird solved all my problems, but I mostly avoid it nevertheless
because I hate the cluttered interface. It does seem to be an ISP problem
in your case.

You are right. I emailed them and they "are aware of the issues you're
experiencing with the News Group servers. Engineering are currently
working on the issue but there is no ETR at this time".

What was puzzling me is that my backup aeio.org news server was also not
working to receive articles, though it was happy to bring the header
subjects down and I could even post at one stage. I suppose there is
some sort of gateway via my ISP to the usenet and something happened at
this gate?

--
dorayme

In article <doraymeRidThis-61CB6E.18525110122008 (AT) web (DOT) aioe.org>,
dorayme <doraymeRidThis (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote:

In article <493f694e$0$192$e4fe514c (AT) news (DOT) xs4all.nl>,
Irina Rempt <irina (AT) valdyas (DOT) org> wrote:

On Wednesday 10 December 2008 01:57, dorayme wrote:

[can't see own posts, or something]

I downloaded Thunderbird and tried that but I am having trouble
connecting to either of the news servers I use. Optus and aeio.org. No
idea what is happening, i might have to ring my ISP. I hate ever
having to.

Thunderbird solved all my problems, but I mostly avoid it nevertheless
because I hate the cluttered interface. It does seem to be an ISP problem
in your case.

You are right. I emailed them and they "are aware of the issues you're
experiencing with the News Group servers. Engineering are currently
working on the issue but there is no ETR at this time".

What was puzzling me is that my backup aeio.org news server was also not
working to receive articles, though it was happy to bring the header
subjects down and I could even post at one stage. I suppose there is
some sort of gateway via my ISP to the usenet and something happened at
this gate?

Hopefully you will be able to see this!

s/gateway/newsfeed/ - it's possible both your ISP and your backup news
server are getting their feeds from a common source, which is broken.
If you look at the Path: header on a news article, you should be able
to see if this is the case. For example, here's the path that your
post I am replying to took to get to my newsfeed (in reverse order):

news1.chem.utoronto.ca!utnut!newsfeed2.telusplanet .net!newsfeed.telus.net
!news-out1.kabelfoon.nl!newsfeed.kabelfoon.nl!bandi.nntp .kabelfoon.nl!new
s.k-dsl.de!aioe.org!doraymeRidThis

- so aioe.org gets its feed from k-dsl gets its feed from ....

dorayme <doraymeRidThis (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> writes:

What was puzzling me is that my backup aeio.org news server was also not
working to receive articles, though it was happy to bring the header
subjects down and I could even post at one stage.

I've noticed aioe.org being offline a few times recently too. It's not
just you, and probably just a coincidence that it's happened at he same
time as your "main" server.

sherm--

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In article <no.email-613744.09223210122008 (AT) news1 (DOT) chem.utoronto.ca>,
David Stone <no.email (AT) domain (DOT) invalid> wrote:

In article <doraymeRidThis-61CB6E.18525110122008 (AT) web (DOT) aioe.org>,
dorayme <doraymeRidThis (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote:
....
What was puzzling me is that my backup aeio.org news server was also not
working to receive articles, though it was happy to bring the header
subjects down and I could even post at one stage. I suppose there is
some sort of gateway via my ISP to the usenet and something happened at
this gate?

Hopefully you will be able to see this!

s/gateway/newsfeed/ - it's possible both your ISP and your backup news
server are getting their feeds from a common source, which is broken.
If you look at the Path: header on a news article, you should be able
to see if this is the case. For example, here's the path that your
post I am replying to took to get to my newsfeed (in reverse order):

news1.chem.utoronto.ca!utnut!newsfeed2.telusplanet .net!newsfeed.telus.net
!news-out1.kabelfoon.nl!newsfeed.kabelfoon.nl!bandi.nntp .kabelfoon.nl!new
s.k-dsl.de!aioe.org!doraymeRidThis

- so aioe.org gets its feed from k-dsl gets its feed from ....

Well, knock me down with a feather! Yes, I see all this stuff at the
click of a button - now you mention it.

I will take a closer look when the Optus news server comes back on line.
Thanks for this, David. It will give a clue on confirming or dismissing
the "coincidence theory" (mentioned by sherm in another post).

--
dorayme