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B McDonald
 
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Default site review request - 09-30-2003 , 04:24 PM






http://www.galtsvalley.com

Hi all. I've recently made some major stylistic changes to my site and now
it is essentially a new design with some new CSS plumbing. I am hoping that
a few hardy souls can go check it out and tell me how it renders on their
platform/browser combos. I have tested it under W2K, WXP, and System 9 on a
Power Mac 8600:

W2K: IE5.5 and Opera 7.1 (some small issues in Opera)
WXP: IE6 and NS7.1 (in IE6 a strange jerkiness when clicking on links that
are not inline... bottom margins seem to collapse a bit...)
OS9/Mac: IE5.1 and NS6 (very good)

Reports on Mozilla, Firebird, other NS and IE versions, and later Mac
platforms most appreciated!

Brian



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Christophe Vanfleteren
 
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Default Re: site review request - 09-30-2003 , 04:39 PM






B McDonald wrote:

Quote:
http://www.galtsvalley.com

Hi all. I've recently made some major stylistic changes to my site and now
it is essentially a new design with some new CSS plumbing. I am hoping
that a few hardy souls can go check it out and tell me how it renders on
their platform/browser combos. I have tested it under W2K, WXP, and System
9 on a Power Mac 8600:

W2K: IE5.5 and Opera 7.1 (some small issues in Opera)
WXP: IE6 and NS7.1 (in IE6 a strange jerkiness when clicking on links that
are not inline... bottom margins seem to collapse a bit...)
OS9/Mac: IE5.1 and NS6 (very good)

Reports on Mozilla, Firebird, other NS and IE versions, and later Mac
platforms most appreciated!

Brian
Looks ok on Konqueror and Mozilla Firebird, but you might want to correct
those errors:
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=ht...svalley.com%2F

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B McDonald
 
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Default Re: site review request - 09-30-2003 , 04:47 PM



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Moz 1.3/Win 2k. For some reason, you think you know better than I
what font-size I prefer.

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Brian
Wait. Which? I have defined most font sizes as %. They will scale with
personal settings. The only one I can think of off-hand that won't is
GALTSVALLEY.COM at the top - it's px.

Believe it or not, I actually took your advice soon after you gave it two or
three weeks ago.

Brian




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B McDonald
 
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Default Re: site review request - 09-30-2003 , 05:10 PM



Wait. Thinking...

I guess I missed the point. It's not that you can enlarge or reduce the text
on my site, it's that I reduce it or enlarge it as a % of the settings you
have set for yourself. So - are you saying I should define all my font sizes
as em?

Brian



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Beauregard T. Shagnasty
 
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Default Re: site review request - 09-30-2003 , 06:23 PM



B McDonald pounced upon this pigeonhole and pronounced:
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Wait. Thinking...

I guess I missed the point. It's not that you can enlarge or reduce the text
on my site, it's that I reduce it or enlarge it as a % of the settings you
have set for yourself. So - are you saying I should define all my font sizes
as em?
No. Just don't use 65%, 70%, 80%. Your text should be 100%. Headers
larger, copyright notices smaller. All else 100%. Drop the Verdana and
you'll see why.

The main GALTSVALLEY.COM overflows an 800x600 window. A horizontal
scrollbar is present. Redesign your template to eliminate it.

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B McDonald
 
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Default Re: site review request - 09-30-2003 , 07:58 PM



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No. Just don't use 65%, 70%, 80%. Your text should be 100%. Headers
larger, copyright notices smaller. All else 100%. Drop the Verdana and
you'll see why.

Thanks. I conducted a little test and set the font-style to 'sans serif' and
the font-size to 100%. I'm not disappointed by what I see... but I do have a
couple questions.

(1) What should I set the line-height to? or does it not matter?
(2) I generally keep my IE text size setting set to "medium". With font-size
set to 100%, when the IE text size is set to anything larger than medium the
text immediately gets bolded. I don't like that. Should I care?

Quote:
The main GALTSVALLEY.COM overflows an 800x600 window. A horizontal
scrollbar is present. Redesign your template to eliminate it.

Can someone please tell me why anyone designs for an 800x600 window? I'm at
a loss here. What decade are we in?




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Default Re: site review request - 09-30-2003 , 08:34 PM



B McDonald wrote:

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The main GALTSVALLEY.COM overflows an 800x600 window. A horizontal
scrollbar is present. Redesign your template to eliminate it.



Can someone please tell me why anyone designs for an 800x600 window? I'm at
a loss here. What decade are we in?


The default setting for majority of monitors are at 800x600. There are quite a
few people that do not know who to change their resolution to anything higher
even though their monitor support is and would probably even look better.

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B McDonald
 
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Default Re: site review request - 09-30-2003 , 08:40 PM



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The default setting for majority of monitors are at 800x600. There are
quite a
few people that do not know who to change their resolution to anything
higher
even though their monitor support is and would probably even look better.

See. I knew that. Just two weeks ago I changed the screen resolution on my
best friend's parent's computer. They were in awe of the result. Their
machine turned into a brand new computer for them.

But still - why should I, or anyone for that matter, design for such a
limitation? It is way too constricting. I mean, unless I'm selling pantyhose
to the masses - or some other mass-market item - there's no point.

Brian




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TrickyNick
 
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Default Re: site review request - 09-30-2003 , 08:44 PM



B McDonald wrote:

Quote:
The default setting for majority of monitors are at 800x600. There are

quite a

few people that do not know who to change their resolution to anything

higher

even though their monitor support is and would probably even look better.



See. I knew that. Just two weeks ago I changed the screen resolution on my
best friend's parent's computer. They were in awe of the result. Their
machine turned into a brand new computer for them.

But still - why should I, or anyone for that matter, design for such a
limitation? It is way too constricting. I mean, unless I'm selling pantyhose
to the masses - or some other mass-market item - there's no point.

Brian


So, you want to design your page which most people will have to scroll
horizontally to see all your information?

Remember, majority of people are not as computer savvy as we are.

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TrickyNick
Nick_At-Sign_TrickyNick_Period_com
http://www.trickynick.com/
Development: http://www.trickynick.com/test/



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Beauregard T. Shagnasty
 
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Default Re: site review request - 09-30-2003 , 09:03 PM



B McDonald pounced upon this pigeonhole and pronounced:
Quote:
No. Just don't use 65%, 70%, 80%. Your text should be 100%. Headers
larger, copyright notices smaller. All else 100%. Drop the Verdana and
you'll see why.


Thanks. I conducted a little test and set the font-style to 'sans serif' and
the font-size to 100%. I'm not disappointed by what I see... but I do have a
couple questions.
That's good. Do understand that your visitors will most likely *not* have
their computers and monitors (and browser window sizes) the same as yours.

Quote:
(1) What should I set the line-height to? or does it not matter?
Leave it to the default, except in the most unusual circumstances.

Quote:
(2) I generally keep my IE text size setting set to "medium". With font-size
set to 100%, when the IE text size is set to anything larger than medium the
text immediately gets bolded. I don't like that. Should I care?
100% is the visitor's default (and preferred) size. If they have vision
problems, they may be at "Larger" and prefer that. Personally, I have IE
set at "Smaller." (Though I rarely *use* IE.)

Quote:
The main GALTSVALLEY.COM overflows an 800x600 window. A horizontal
scrollbar is present. Redesign your template to eliminate it.
If the CSS for that "banner" was set at some number of em, it wouldn't
overflow.

Quote:
Can someone please tell me why anyone designs for an 800x600 window? I'm at
a loss here. What decade are we in?
The object here is to design for... no size. Make it float so that in my
740px window, I still don't need scrollbars. Monitor resolution is not
equal to browser window size. Most people with high resolution screens do
not browse with the window maximized.

http://allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?AnySizeDesign

Here's a site of mine. Note how you can change your font to any size, and
make the browser window whatever size you care to, and it all still fits.
http://www.freezeblock.com/ No scrollbars necessary.

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