Re: really easy tables question

Michael wrote:

I'm trying to use a table and format it with CSS, but I cant get it to
render with a border. I know this is really easy, but I can't see what I
have wrong and when I search for tables and CSS I just get lots of stuff
about using tables for layout etc.

There's nothing special about tables when it comes to borders in CSS.

What I have is:
table {border: 2px;

So, that would be:

border-width: 2px;
border-style: none;

then?

(and don't forget the border-color).

font-size: 16pt;

Point units considered harmful on screen:
http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=UsingPoints

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Scripsit David Dorward:

There's nothing special about tables when it comes to borders in CSS.

Actually there's quite a lot special, like border-collapse. But for the
border around a table itself, there's nothing different from the general
border concept in CSS.

What puzzles people who move from presentational HTML to using CSS is that
when you set a border for a table, you only set a border for the table
element as a whole. That's really the "nothing special" thing in CSS terms,
but it differs essentially from the effect of, say, <table border="2">.

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"David Dorward" <dorward (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

Michael wrote:

I'm trying to use a table and format it with CSS, but I cant get it to
render with a border. I know this is really easy, but I can't see what I
have wrong and when I search for tables and CSS I just get lots of stuff
about using tables for layout etc.

There's nothing special about tables when it comes to borders in CSS.

What I have is:
table {border: 2px;

So, that would be:

border-width: 2px;
border-style: none;

then?

(and don't forget the border-color).

font-size: 16pt;

Point units considered harmful on screen:
http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=UsingPoints

--
David Dorward <http://blog.dorward.me.uk/> <http://dorward.me.uk/
Home is where the ~/.bashrc is

ahhhhhh! I knew it was something stupid.
Thanks for that

Michael

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Michael wrote:

I'm trying to use a table and format it with CSS, but I cant get it to
render with a border. I know this is really easy, but I can't see what I
have wrong and when I search for tables and CSS I just get lots of stuff
about using tables for layout etc.

There's nothing special about tables when it comes to borders in CSS.

What I have is:
table {border: 2px;

So, that would be:

border-width: 2px;
border-style: none;

then?

(and don't forget the border-color).

font-size: 16pt;

Point units considered harmful on screen:
http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=UsingPoints

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ahhhhhh! I knew it was something stupid.
Thanks for that

Michael

Hmmmm.....

Now I have:

table {position: absolute;
top: 150px;
left: 150px;
border-width: 2px;
border-style: none;
font-size: 16pt;
}

I know the page is using the stylesheet because if I change the font-size it
changes, but I still have no border........

Thanks for your help

Regards

Michael

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Michael wrote:

I'm trying to use a table and format it with CSS, but I cant get it to
render with a border. I know this is really easy, but I can't see what I
have wrong and when I search for tables and CSS I just get lots of stuff
about using tables for layout etc.

There's nothing special about tables when it comes to borders in CSS.

What I have is:
table {border: 2px;

So, that would be:

border-width: 2px;
border-style: none;

then?

(and don't forget the border-color).

font-size: 16pt;

Point units considered harmful on screen:
http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=UsingPoints

--
David Dorward <http://blog.dorward.me.uk/
http://dorward.me.uk/
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ahhhhhh! I knew it was something stupid.
Thanks for that

Michael



Hmmmm.....

Now I have:

table {position: absolute;
top: 150px;
left: 150px;
border-width: 2px;
border-style: none;
font-size: 16pt;
}

I know the page is using the stylesheet because if I change the font-size it
changes, but I still have no border........

It helps to consult the CSS specs for border-style:

none
No border. This value forces the computed value of ¹border-width¹
to be ¹0¹.
hidden
Same as ¹none¹, except in terms of border conflict resolution [p.
264] for table elements [p. 245] .
dotted
The border is a series of dots.
dashed
The border is a series of short line segments.
solid
The border is a single line segment.

http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2, for future reference!

Michael wrote:

So, that would be:
border-width: 2px;
border-style: none;
then?

border-style: none;

So now you're setting it to none explicitly, instead of having none because
its the default. None is, however, still none.

(and don't forget the border-color).

You're still forgetting the border colour.

Point units considered harmful on screen:
http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=UsingPoints

font-size: 16pt;

Point units are still considered harmfil, avoid them.

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