Re: Fonts look the same???

Nikolaos Giannopoulos <nikolaos (AT) solmar (DOT) ca> wrote:

i.e. I swap the order of fonts, the fonts on the page look the same on
both IE 5.0 Win and Moz 1.3.

Have you checked whether your system actually has both "Arial" and
"Helvetica"?

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Yucca, http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/

Jukka K. Korpela wrote:

Nikolaos Giannopoulos <nikolaos (AT) solmar (DOT) ca> wrote:

i.e. I swap the order of fonts, the fonts on the page look the same on
both IE 5.0 Win and Moz 1.3.

Have you checked whether your system actually has both "Arial" and
"Helvetica"?

Yes, it does (along with about 600 other fonts) I use the system for
numerous graphics apps and Arial and Helvetica are definately there.

I imagine it is possible that one of them is corrupted.

I'll look into this further by trying things from another box.

--Nikolaos

In article <Xns93DDCFEAF768Ajkorpelacstutfi (AT) 193 (DOT) 229.0.31> in
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.stylesheets, Jukka K. Korpela
<jkorpela (AT) cs (DOT) tut.fi> wrote:

Nikolaos Giannopoulos <nikolaos (AT) solmar (DOT) ca> wrote:

i.e. I swap the order of fonts, the fonts on the page look the same on
both IE 5.0 Win and Moz 1.3.

Have you checked whether your system actually has both "Arial" and
"Helvetica"?

Also check whether there's a font substitution section in your
Win.ini or System.ini file (if you have either).

Are you sure you can tell the difference between Arial and Helvetica
on screen? I don't think I can, but my eyes aren't the best.

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Stan Brown <the_stan_brown (AT) fastmail (DOT) fm> wrote:

Are you sure you can tell the difference between Arial and Helvetica
on screen? I don't think I can, but my eyes aren't the best.

Easy! http://google.com/search?q=differenc...rial+Helvetica
Compare the following characters:
% 1 G R ß
in both typefaces.

In article <3f483193.12269702 (AT) netnews (DOT) worldnet.att.net> in
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.stylesheets, Nick Theodorakis
<nicholas_theodorakis (AT) urmc (DOT) rochester.edu> wrote:

On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 15:07:40 -0400, Stan Brown
the_stan_brown (AT) fastmail (DOT) fm> wrote:
Are you sure you can tell the difference between Arial and Helvetica
on screen? I don't think I can, but my eyes aren't the best.

You can, too, with a little practice; see:
http://www.ms-studio.com/articlesarialsid.html
for example.

Interesting. Thanks, Nick!

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cortland County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
HTML 4.01 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/
validator: http://validator.w3.org/
CSS 2 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/
validator: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/

Nick Theodorakis wrote:

On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 15:07:40 -0400, Stan Brown
the_stan_brown (AT) fastmail (DOT) fm> wrote:


As to the OP, I have a similar obsevation. In my case, Mozilla (1.4)
appears to substitute Arial when Helvetica is specified, but IE5 or
Opera7 will display Helvetica (or at least something Helvetica-ish
that is not Arial). My test page is:

Well, that's it then as I use Mozilla 1.3 for my design work and I
imagine I didn't take a close enough look with IE 5.0 but now that I
checked again that is *exactly* what I am seeing.

i.e. IE 5.0 does show a font different from Arial when Helvetica is
specified but Mozilla 1.3 always seems to show Arial *even* when
Helvetica is specified.

At least I am not losing it... ;-)

Thanks,

--Nikolaos