Problems with IE6.0 and stylesheets :-(

Mark Carroll <markc (AT) chiark (DOT) greenend.org.uk> wrote:

Neal <neal413 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
Not to mention they time out, and as such are useless for archiving
purposes - one of the good features of Usenet.
Actually, ones from tinyurl.com don't time out.

News to me, thanks.

Neal <neal413 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

Harlan Messinger <hmessinger.removethis (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote:
Neal <neal413 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
Beauregard T. Shagnasty <a.nony.mous (AT) example (DOT) invalid> wrote:
Please don't post tinyurls to your site. Nobody knows where they
really lead, and may be reluctant to visit.

Not to mention they time out, and as such are useless for archiving
purposes - one of the good features of Usenet.

That's a little besides the point for the purpose at hand. If I give
a
URL for a page I've posted to the Internet in order to solicit some
help here, there's no reason for anyone to assume it'll still be
there
a week from now, let alone that it will be an archive for the ages.

Though it is true what you say, there are resources and sites to which
a normal URL is superior to a tiny one, but never the other way around
IMO.

Saving people some the trouble of cutting and pasting a URL in pieces
when they try to give you a hand with something seems like a
worthwhile reason to me.


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kchayka <usenet (AT) c-net (DOT) us> wrote:

Harlan Messinger wrote:
Neal <neal413 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

there are resources and sites to which
a normal URL is superior to a tiny one, but never the other way around
IMO.

Saving people some the trouble of cutting and pasting a URL in pieces
when they try to give you a hand with something seems like a
worthwhile reason to me.

Suggestions:
1. Get a better newsreader that won't mangle long urls

I don't even know if my newsreader causes such a problem. I thought it
was caused by the reader's newsreader, not the sender. If the problem
*is* on the sender's end, then maybe a different newsreader would do
something else wrong instead. I could experiment until I found the one
newsreader that didn't do anything that no one objected to, but that's
not really practical.

Or, I could use a TinyURL for a one-time reference to a page that's
temporary anyway and causes no problems other than violating a dogma
that has grown from what, in a more limited context, is a useful piece
of advice.

2. If you insist on using tinyURL, also post the original url so there's
no question where a link goes

Would
"www.snarfly.com/tests/test3.asp?id=4&lang=en&sess=DLKJSDLFKHJSDLFKKJLS&p g=123987&rl=348293"
tell you anything more about "where a link goes" than a TinyURL
address?

You may respond, "Yes, at least I know I'm going to snarfly.com". My
response to that would be in two parts: (1) How do you know what's at
snarfly.com? It could start playing annoying music and flashing
banners, or bombard you with odious political propaganda, or load
spyware on your computer, just as easily as if I'd used a TinyURL to
send you there. (2) The question about where the link is going still
hasn't been eliminated, because as far as you know, snarfly.com could
also be a redirection. The only difference in that case between
snarfly and TinyURL is that you wouldn't know in advance that snarfly
is a redirection. If you're averse to redirections, and are indisposed
to clicking TinyURLs, then you really shouldn't click *any* links that
you don't recognize because they could send you somewhere else.)

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Harlan Messinger
Remove the first dot from my e-mail address.
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