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Mr. Clean
 
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Default Problems between Mozilla 1.4 and IE6 - 08-22-2003 , 10:48 AM






Take a look at these two images. They are both using the same code yet
see the differences? What would cause that and how to make them both
look like the IE6 page?

Mozilla screenshot: http://www.amishmkt.com/mozilla_1.4.gif
IE screenshot: http://www.amishmkt.com//ie6.gif

Here is the site: http://www.amishmkt.com/index.html

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Mr. Clean
 
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Default Re: Problems between Mozilla 1.4 and IE6 - 08-22-2003 , 12:10 PM






In article <bi5g49$5f49v$1 (AT) ID-139074 (DOT) news.uni-berlin.de>, ngx (AT) tbdata (DOT) com
says...
Quote:
Mr. Clean wrote:
...

Here is the site: http://www.amishmkt.com/index.html

declare which character encoding you would like browsers to use

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=ht...2Findex.ht ml

then revisit the validator and fix the errors. till you do that your page
is forcing browsers to guess what to do.


Fixed the encoding and all the errors but the amibigous "already defined"
errors for my id's "dkred_14" and "description". How to get rid of those? Use
in-line styles?

Still exhibits the problem...

here's the mozilla screenshot:
http://www.amishmkt.com/mozilla_1.4_2.gif

and the IE screenshot:
http://www.amishmkt.com/ie6_2.gif


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Beauregard T. Shagnasty
 
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Default Re: Problems between Mozilla 1.4 and IE6 - 08-22-2003 , 12:25 PM



Mr. Clean pounced upon this pigeonhole and pronounced:
Quote:
In article <bi5g49$5f49v$1 (AT) ID-139074 (DOT) news.uni-berlin.de>, ngx (AT) tbdata (DOT) com
says...
Mr. Clean wrote:
...

Here is the site: http://www.amishmkt.com/index.html

At first, I thought this was a one-page web site. (Why would a business
site be only one page?)

Then, in the source, I found your JavaScript menu. Do you realize that
with such a menu you will be losing about 20% of your visitors? Including
that most important googlebot? Use HTML so we can all see it.

Firebird, no js, no popups, W2k.

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William Tasso
 
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Default Re: Problems between Mozilla 1.4 and IE6 - 08-22-2003 , 12:33 PM



Mr. Clean wrote:
Quote:
In article <bi5g49$5f49v$1 (AT) ID-139074 (DOT) news.uni-berlin.de>,
ngx (AT) tbdata (DOT) com says...
Mr. Clean wrote:
...

Here is the site: http://www.amishmkt.com/index.html

declare which character encoding you would like browsers to use


http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=ht...2Findex.ht ml

then revisit the validator and fix the errors. till you do that
your page is forcing browsers to guess what to do.


Fixed the encoding and all the errors but the amibigous "already
defined" errors for my id's "dkred_14" and "description". How to get
rid of those? Use in-line styles?
no, use class

Quote:
Still exhibits the problem...

#banner {
background:#f0e0c8;
height:181px;
border:3px solid #996633;
voice-family: "\"}\"";
voice-family: inherit;
height:39px;
width: 586px;
}
html>body #banner {
height:39px;
}

you appear to be serving IE a height of 181px and Moz a height of 39px

check in Opera too.

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Mr. Clean
 
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Default Re: Problems between Mozilla 1.4 and IE6 - 08-22-2003 , 03:40 PM



In article <bi5k54$5h46v$1 (AT) ID-139074 (DOT) news.uni-berlin.de>, ngx (AT) tbdata (DOT) com
says...
Quote:
Mr. Clean wrote:
In article <bi5g49$5f49v$1 (AT) ID-139074 (DOT) news.uni-berlin.de>,
ngx (AT) tbdata (DOT) com says...
Mr. Clean wrote:
...

Here is the site: http://www.amishmkt.com/index.html

declare which character encoding you would like browsers to use


http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=ht...2Findex.ht ml

then revisit the validator and fix the errors. till you do that
your page is forcing browsers to guess what to do.


Fixed the encoding and all the errors but the amibigous "already
defined" errors for my id's "dkred_14" and "description". How to get
rid of those? Use in-line styles?

no, use class

Tried that, loses all the styles in IE for sure.


Quote:
Still exhibits the problem...


#banner {
background:#f0e0c8;
height:181px;
border:3px solid #996633;
voice-family: "\"}\"";
voice-family: inherit;
height:39px;
width: 586px;
}
html>body #banner {
height:39px;
}

you appear to be serving IE a height of 181px and Moz a height of 39px

Whoa, didn't see that one.

Quote:
check in Opera too.
Don't have it installed, yet.



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Mr. Clean
 
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Default Re: Problems between Mozilla 1.4 and IE6 - 08-22-2003 , 03:40 PM



In article <0ms1b.2211$7G2.506 (AT) twister (DOT) nyroc.rr.com>,
a.nony.nous (AT) nowhere (DOT) invalid says...
Quote:
Mr. Clean pounced upon this pigeonhole and pronounced:
In article <bi5g49$5f49v$1 (AT) ID-139074 (DOT) news.uni-berlin.de>, ngx (AT) tbdata (DOT) com
says...
Mr. Clean wrote:
...

Here is the site: http://www.amishmkt.com/index.html


At first, I thought this was a one-page web site. (Why would a business
site be only one page?)

Then, in the source, I found your JavaScript menu. Do you realize that
with such a menu you will be losing about 20% of your visitors? Including
that most important googlebot? Use HTML so we can all see it.

Firebird, no js, no popups, W2k.


Still under construction...

Currently working on CSS alternative to the JS rollovers.


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Stan Brown
 
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Default Re: Problems between Mozilla 1.4 and IE6 - 08-22-2003 , 07:21 PM



In article <0ms1b.2211$7G2.506 (AT) twister (DOT) nyroc.rr.com> in
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.stylesheets, Beauregard T. Shagnasty
<a.nony.nous (AT) nowhere (DOT) invalid> wrote:
Quote:
Then, in the source, I found your JavaScript menu. Do you realize that
with such a menu you will be losing about 20% of your visitors?
Citation, please? I'd love to present it to bosses who want pages to
use Javascript navigation.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cortland County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
HTML 4.01 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/
validator: http://validator.w3.org/
CSS 2 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/
validator: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/


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Beauregard T. Shagnasty
 
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Default Re: Problems between Mozilla 1.4 and IE6 - 08-22-2003 , 08:24 PM



Stan Brown pounced upon this pigeonhole and pronounced:
Quote:
In article <0ms1b.2211$7G2.506 (AT) twister (DOT) nyroc.rr.com> in
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.stylesheets, Beauregard T. Shagnasty
a.nony.nous (AT) nowhere (DOT) invalid> wrote:
Then, in the source, I found your JavaScript menu. Do you realize that
with such a menu you will be losing about 20% of your visitors?

Citation, please? I'd love to present it to bosses who want pages to
use Javascript navigation.
Just what I've read in these various groups. Some say 10%, some say 20%...
This page says 13% for July 03.
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
All of the charts on this page are followed by the usual disclaimers.

So, losing 13% of visitors is not a good idea. <g>

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Marcel de Groot
 
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Default Re: Problems between Mozilla 1.4 and IE6 - 08-23-2003 , 11:25 AM



On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 20:40:10 GMT, Mr. Clean wrote in
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.stylesheets:

Quote:
Fixed the encoding and all the errors but the amibigous "already
defined" errors for my id's "dkred_14" and "description". How to get
rid of those? Use in-line styles?

no, use class

Tried that, loses all the styles in IE for sure.

An id tag can only be used *ONCE* per page, not like you do now with
your <p = id"description">.

So, you will have to start using classes for the <p>.

Marcel


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