orphans / widows

Hello,

I have been trying to use orphan and widow control to prevent page
breaks immediately after h1 elements (on a CV). I have validated the
css and html, and used the following hoping this would work:

h1 {
orphans: 4;
widows: 1;
}

Because it's a resume, all the h1 elements are one line only, so I
assumed this would prevent any h1's from appearing as the last thing
on a page, with nothing following it below.

I was hoping this would work in Opera so I could print from that
browser, because it supposedly supports this feature. But it doesn't
seem to work. When I try to print from Opera, there is an h1 on the
third page that is at the very bottom, with nothing beneath it

The page is here: http://www.mdessen.com/mdcv.html

If anyone were to take the time to figure out what is wrong here, I
offer many kind thanks in advance.

michael dessen

m (AT) mdessen (DOT) com wrote:

Hello,

I have been trying to use orphan and widow control to prevent page
breaks immediately after h1 elements (on a CV). I have validated the
css and html, and used the following hoping this would work:

h1 {
orphans: 4;
widows: 1;
}

Because it's a resume, all the h1 elements are one line only, so I
assumed this would prevent any h1's from appearing as the last thing
on a page, with nothing following it below.

How many level one heading do you have on a document? Should be only
one. Also I don't think you know what this property does. It does not
prevent page breaks before or after the specified block element bit
*within*. Usually applied to a paragraph not a heading. Not too many
headings a long enough for multiple lines, I think the properties that
you are looking for is page-break-before and page-break-after


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Thank you for the help!!
I will change it to h2 so as to use the header tags properly.
And I see now what you are saying about within the block element,
which explains my problem.
But now I am wondering if there is a way to achieve the effect I
originally intended, which is to not have a header element (section
title) sitting at the bottom of a printed page without anything
following it. I don't want to put a page break before every section
header since that would just break up the document into way too many
pages with tons of wasted space. Is there any way to prevent a browser
(when printing) from placing a particular element just before a page
break, aside from manually forcing particular page breaks?
Thanks again for any help anyone can offer.

michael dessen

I just re-read the page-break specs and now see what you mean. THANK
YOU for the help!

michael dessen

Scripsit m (AT) mdessen (DOT) com:

I just re-read the page-break specs and now see what you mean.

Unfortunately, that's not the end of the story.

Although page-break-after: always and page-break-before: before are
well-supported, the same does not apply to settings that _prevent_ page
breaks or, to put it better, suggest that a page break should _not_ occur.

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Jukka K. Korpela ("Yucca")
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/

in comp.infosystems.www.authoring.stylesheets, Jukka K. Korpela wrote:

Scripsit m (AT) mdessen (DOT) com:

I just re-read the page-break specs and now see what you mean.

Unfortunately, that's not the end of the story.

Although page-break-after: always and page-break-before: before are
well-supported, the same does not apply to settings that _prevent_ page
breaks or, to put it better, suggest that a page break should _not_ occur.

Actually, page-break-before: avoid is often more likely cause page-break
than prevent it on some browser I tested about 2-3 years ago.

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Lauri Raittila <http://www.iki.fi/lr>