My messy stylesheets just ain't got no style....

On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 16:07:04 +0100, Herbert wrote:

On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:02:45 +0000 (UTC), "Jukka K. Korpela"
jkorpela (AT) cs (DOT) tut.fi> wrote:
Nobody, hopefully. Please keep posting cluelessly, until you have
something useful or interesting to say. [...]

Ah... this is an example of 'useful or interesting'?

When I asked once about possibilities how to make a dotted underline,
I let myself draw into a strange discussion about why dotted
underlines are evil. That, seemingly, was somebody's image of what is
"useful or interesting"...

This whole thread has been absolutely entertaining. (Dare I say 100%
entertaining!) And also informative.

Keep it up for a bit longer... I look forward immensely to reading future
follow-ups : )

P.

On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 13:56:04 +0200, Stephen Poley wrote:

Alternatively one could have a look at preprocessing.

I've always felt that something like this (not exactly preprocessing,
but with a similar effect) is missing from CSS. It could be as simple
as constants or "style constants": definitions of certain values or
styles that get associated with a name and can then be invoked by
using the name. This could make many style sheets a lot cleaner.

Is anything like this being discussed for inclusion into CSS?

On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 17:15:20 +0100, Herbert wrote:

Other folks will probably comment on your CSS; in particular it
usually doesn't sense to specify the text margin in pixels.

Well (at risk of incurring the ire of any anti-tables denizens) I
might use it when trying to keep text at a specific distance from
other content in certain cells a borderless table, and it seems to do
what I want just fine. I'll review the options again, but I'm open to
alternatives recommendations.

The relationship between font size (as measured in em) and pixels
varies between common displays as much as 1:2. Selecting a text margin
in em that is on your display as wide as you would specify it in
pixels makes sure that it is on my display just as wide -- compared to
the actual size of the font.

Herbert wrote:

In any case, I think one should aim to match the look of one's page to
the default settings.

Assuming you are referring to the out-of-the-box vendor settings, if I
followed your advice I probably wouldn't be able to read my own web pages.

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Gerhard Fiedler <me (AT) privacy (DOT) net> exclaimed in <v3t2ovoqkpihvse4vmngpb3ktm4kcj9c4l (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>:

I let myself draw into a strange discussion about why dotted
underlines are evil. That, seemingly, was somebody's image of what is
"useful or interesting"...

Perhaps you'd enjoy extending this debate with an explanation of what
makes that so amusing ?

Otherwise we might just as well assume that you simply think everything
YOU want to ask, or learn, is interesting and useful and the rest of us
should just do the Norwegian Blue routine.

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Tina Holmboe wrote:

...
It's a shame that too many parents see the TV, or the Internet, as a
babysitter and let people like Herbert loose on us.

not sure if it's what you intended, but that gets a good belly laugh here
/bg

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"William Tasso" <news27 (AT) tbdata (DOT) com> exclaimed in <blsopc$fudpf$1 (AT) id-139074 (DOT) news.uni-berlin.de>:

Tina Holmboe wrote:
...
It's a shame that too many parents see the TV, or the Internet, as a
babysitter and let people like Herbert loose on us.

not sure if it's what you intended, but that gets a good belly laugh here
/bg

If I can manage to amuse my fellow human beans; so much the better. After
all, those who do laugh at the above might be Good Guys, and since a good
laugh is supposed to help you live longer we'll simply win in the end out
of sheer tenacity ...

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On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 18:08:02 GMT, tina (AT) greytower (DOT) net (Tina Holmboe)
wrote:

Gerhard Fiedler <me (AT) privacy (DOT) net> exclaimed in <v3t2ovoqkpihvse4vmngpb3ktm4kcj9c4l (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>:

I let myself draw into a strange discussion about why dotted
underlines are evil. That, seemingly, was somebody's image of what is
"useful or interesting"...

Perhaps you'd enjoy extending this debate with an explanation of what
makes that so amusing ?

Otherwise we might just as well assume that you simply think everything
YOU want to ask, or learn, is interesting and useful and the rest of us
should just do the Norwegian Blue routine.

It's really not that difficult to understand. I can explain in one
sentence.

When someone asks a straight-forward question to which the answer
could be brief, one finds that there's an apparently innate incapacity
with some respondents to avoid expressing their personal opinion as to
the validity or desireablity of implementing that measure, which all
too often dominates their perspective to such an extent that the
original question, asked with respect and modesty, becomes a secondary
issue to an interminable debate which frequently descends into dubious
personal assessments of that person's intelligence, experience,
motives, morals and so on, forcing them - unless they have either the
will to resist such insults or actually relish swatting wasps - into a
futile defence against these respondents with their exceedingly high
opinion of themselves, but who have forsaken any remnant of
pertinence.

On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 12:01:53 GMT, tina (AT) greytower (DOT) net (Tina Holmboe)
wrote:

Herbert <doughnut (AT) email (DOT) me.ok> exclaimed in <7c82ovok5nm5r0675n0qs82t4voo5rk2c4 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>:

Oh I'm dead. Basically because I won't act 'subservient' (see above
in this thread if you're interested) or supine in the face of arrant
irrelevant smart-ass nit-picking.

Killfiles = "I'm not playing any more". Never used 'em.

I have. *plink*

A killfile, among the adult population, is somewhat comparable to the OFF
switch on a TV set or a radio. If what is being said is something you don't
care to listen to, you can turn it off.

It's a shame that too many parents see the TV, or the Internet, as a
babysitter and let people like Herbert loose on us.

Diddums.