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Default Re: mozilla - 07-18-2004 , 07:35 PM






On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 23:31:30 +0100, Alan J. Flavell wrote:

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..I wondered how you folks normally check a MIME type?

lynx -head -dump http://whatever
Tah. I have Lynx, I'll check it out.

It might be handy to be able give an
URL that shows the OP, like the HTML/CSS
validators, that a document (or in this
case document type) is invalid..

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Default Re: mozilla - 07-18-2004 , 07:44 PM






On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 00:11:34 +0100, Steve Pugh wrote:

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Some web site (that I apparantly missed) that will
check MIME types given an URL?

Yes. http://www.delorie.com/web/headers.html
Now *that's* what I'm talking about, the
inbuilt tools are great, but I was after
something that will do it by link in any
old browser.

Thanks.

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Default Re: mozilla - 07-19-2004 , 01:41 AM



Brian <usenet3 (AT) julietremblay (DOT) com.invalid> wrote:
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Steve Pugh wrote:
Andrew Thompson wrote:

I wondered how you folks normally check a MIME type?

Do you have a specially enabled browser or browser plug-in.

Out of the box Opera and Mozilla both have this function.

I think you need the Live HTTP Headers to check the mime type, which
gives the "live" view as well as the "Headers" tab in the page info
window.
Live HTTP Headers is a Mozilla thing isn't it?
I don't have it installed but when I went to the OP's stylesheet:
http://www.tased.edu.au/tasonline/ve...ets/styles.css and hit
CTRL+I I get the page info box which said "Type: text/html" which
indicates the discussed problem perfectly. Maybe for more detailed
analysis the extra Live HTTP Headers is needed but not here.

Steve

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Default Re: mozilla - 07-19-2004 , 03:45 AM



Steve Pugh <steve (AT) pugh (DOT) net> wrote:

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I wondered how you folks normally check a MIME type?

Do you have a specially enabled browser or
browser plug-in.

Yes. Out of the box Opera and Mozilla both have this function.
Don't use Opera for this, it may substitute a server mime type, if it
does it reports the substituted mime type as "MIME type from server".

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Default Re: mozilla - 07-19-2004 , 01:02 PM



On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 22:21:42 GMT, Andrew Thompson
<SeeMySites (AT) www (DOT) invalid> wrote:

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Since I heard of this applet though, I wondered
how you folks normally check a MIME type?
Opera: "info" button on the hotlist pane (F4 to activate if it's not
already visible).

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Default Re: mozilla - 07-19-2004 , 01:04 PM



Spartanicus <me (AT) privacy (DOT) net> wrote:
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Steve Pugh <steve (AT) pugh (DOT) net> wrote:

I wondered how you folks normally check a MIME type?

Do you have a specially enabled browser or
browser plug-in.

Yes. Out of the box Opera and Mozilla both have this function.

Don't use Opera for this, it may substitute a server mime type, if it
does it reports the substituted mime type as "MIME type from server".
Only if you have "Determine action by file extension if MIME type is
unreliable" checked in your preferences. Remembering to switch it off
when starting a debugging exercise, if you have it enabled (it is by
default), is another matter.

IIRC only text/plain, text/html and application/octet-stream are
classed as being unreliable, everything else is always treated
according to its content-type. Of course those are the ones most
likely to need debugging as those are the ones servers most often spew
out incorrectly (which is of course why Opera doesn't trust in them in
the first place). :-o

If enough people hassle Opera about this they may change the info
display like they did with the character encoding which now reports
both the one sent by the server and the one used by Opera.

Steve

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Default Re: mozilla - 07-20-2004 , 06:42 AM



On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 22:21:42 GMT,
Andrew Thompson <SeeMySites (AT) www (DOT) invalid> posted:

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I wondered how you folks normally check a MIME type?
I found a little HTTP tool called "ViewHEAD" from
<http://www.pc-tools.net/> to be quite a useful little gadget.

It's a Windows program that lets you enter in a URI and it shows you the
HTTP headers from the server. I find it less painful than messing with
Lynx, or some of the plug-ins I've seen for browsers.

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