Margin and Padding Properties

Brian <usenet3 (AT) julietremblay (DOT) com.invalid> wrote:

Roderik wrote:

I fixed the HTML for him. He can't do it himself at geocities because
geocities servers add invalid html to your pages when serving them.

So I now see. Apologies to the op.

Aside: My gosh, that's a lot of crud. What is with the string of
closed tags? To protect from a page with an element not closed by the
author?

Once upon a time authors could kill the JavaScript that Geocities
stuffs at the end of the file by leaving certain elements open at the
end of their page. Geocities "fixed" this by closing all those
elements. Not by parsing the page and closing anything left open, but
by always shoving in a bunch of end tags - the sledgehammer approach.

Steve

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On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 16:33:31 -0400, Brian wrote:

geocities servers add invalid html to your pages
...
Aside: My gosh, that's a lot of crud

It seems you are unconvinced just how bad
this mangling is.. I will not reference
the current page, I'll refer to one I know
better, a page I wrote for a friend and uploaded
to GeoCities..

<http://www.geocities.com/flaredlens/files/index.html>
His business ..does not have any, ..well business
yet, so he chose the 'free' site.

I checked the HTML before I uploaded it, here
is a copy of the HTML (with CSS) at my own site..
<http://www.physci.org/test/fl/>

The page validates just fine at my site..
<http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.physci.org/test/fl/>

Ok, OK '4.01 Transitional'.. pretty low
validation standard, but it *does* validate..

Whereas here is what the validator
thinks of the GeoCities version..
<http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.geocities.com/flaredlens/files/index.html>

...and very oddly at this instant the validator
is reporting *that* as entirely valid XHTML 1.0
strict, whereas moments ago it was reporting
21 validation errors as 4.01 Transitional...

I mean, look at the page, there is no 'rocket
science' positioning, no complex structure,
no nested tables, ..no tables at all in fact.
And yet the GeoCities server manages to insert
21 errors (and an ad) into the document before
it reaches the user. :-/

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On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 18:07:46 -0400, Brian wrote:

First: you snipped an attribution; please don't do that. I've
reinserted it where it belongs.
Andrew Thompson wrote:

Brian wrote:

[reinserted] Roderik wrote:
geocities servers add invalid html to your pages

Aside: My gosh, that's a lot of crud

It seems you are unconvinced just how bad this mangling is..

Huh? How did you reach that conclusion? "My gosh, that's a lot of
crud" means, well, my gosh, that's a lot of crud. Geocities add stuff
to the page that is really awful. How did you read that as anything else?

By mistake. You have my apologies.

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