Looking for CSS minimizer

On Jul 3, 10:59*am, "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4... (AT) central (DOT) net> wrote:

The biggest problem is not filesize but in most cases going overboard on
* css rules that bog down the processing of the page for the browser.
Some sites have thousands of rules, many contradictory, or unnecessary.

Exactly. Very long CSS stylesheets, over-excessively specified CSS
rules, over-qualified CSS rules, over-excessive detailed style
declarations (sometimes to work around browser bugs but more often
typical of a pixel-precise and constraining webpage layout) are more
and more frequent.

Often, bloated CSS code start with universal selector like

* {margin: 0; padding: 0;}

which I think should be exposed, explained and denounced. There are
maybe only 3 types of elements which default browser values need to be
neutralized or zero-ed: lists (ul, ol: margin-left and padding-left),
list-item (li: margin-left and padding-left) and form elements
(vertical margins). That's it.

Regards, Gérard

GTalbot wrote:

Often, bloated CSS code start with universal selector like

* {margin: 0; padding: 0;}

which I think should be exposed, explained and denounced. There are
maybe only 3 types of elements which default browser values need to be
neutralized or zero-ed: lists (ul, ol: margin-left and padding-left),
list-item (li: margin-left and padding-left) and form elements
(vertical margins). That's it.

Actually depending on the design one may need to zero out the BODY in
order to hang your "decor" flush with the browser window...

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Take care,

Jonathan
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GTalbot wrote:

Often, bloated CSS code start with universal selector like

* {margin: 0; padding: 0;}

which I think should be exposed, explained and denounced.

Hey - I denounce it!

This is something that's only used by control freaks.

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Berg

On 2008-07-15, GTalbot wrote:

On Jul 3, 10:59*am, "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4... (AT) central (DOT) net> wrote:

The biggest problem is not filesize but in most cases going overboard on
* css rules that bog down the processing of the page for the browser.
Some sites have thousands of rules, many contradictory, or unnecessary.

Exactly. Very long CSS stylesheets, over-excessively specified CSS
rules, over-qualified CSS rules, over-excessive detailed style
declarations (sometimes to work around browser bugs but more often
typical of a pixel-precise and constraining webpage layout) are more
and more frequent.

Often, bloated CSS code start with universal selector like

Nonsense.

* {margin: 0; padding: 0;}

That's very useful, but will probably make rendering the page a
little slower.

which I think should be exposed, explained and denounced.

There's nothing wrong with it.

There are maybe only 3 types of elements which default browser
values need to be neutralized or zero-ed: lists (ul, ol: margin-left
and padding-left), list-item (li: margin-left and padding-left) and
form elements (vertical margins). That's it.

Quite the opposite; those are the elements that usually need the
margin-left or padding-;left reinstated.

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