Link underlining - how to turn off?

I have a page with many links. Browsers like
to underline the links -- result is ugly.

Is there any (CSS?) way to prevent underlining?


(By the way, I decry the common practice
of making links hard to see -- at least
color them.)

Mason C

Mason A. Clark wrote:

I have a page with many links. Browsers like
to underline the links -- result is ugly.

Is there any (CSS?) way to prevent underlining?

Yes. http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/text.html#propdef-text-decoration

(By the way, I decry the common practice
of making links hard to see -- at least
color them.)

Most visitors to a site also expect links to be underlined, ugly as it
is. Unless you take measures like creating an obvious menu, links will
go unnoticed. IF you choose to remove underlines, take extra effort to
make it very very clear that your chosen style is a link.

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Uncle Pirate <stan (AT) surecann (DOT) com> wrote:

Mason A. Clark wrote:
Is there any (CSS?) way to prevent underlining?
Most visitors to a site also expect links to be underlined, ugly as
it is. Unless you take measures like creating an obvious menu,
links will go unnoticed. IF you choose to remove underlines, take
extra effort to make it very very clear that your chosen style is a
link.

And be sure not to rely on color or boldfacing to do it. Both have
major isses attached.

Mason A. Clark wrote:

I have a page with many links. Browsers like
to underline the links -- result is ugly.

Is there any (CSS?) way to prevent underlining?

See the text-decoration property.

(By the way, I decry the common practice
of making links hard to see -- at least
color them.)

And what if I'm colour-blind? I agree that the usual underlining is a
bit harsh: my usual solution is to use a subtle border-bottom with hover
effects. See the site in my sig for an example.

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"Mason A. Clark" wrote in comp.infosystems.www.authoring.stylesheets:

Is there any (CSS?) way to prevent underlining?

(By the way, I decry the common practice
of making links hard to see -- at least
color them.)

So you want to make links hard to see, but not make them hard to see.
Uh-HUH.

Underlining is part of hat makes links visible. You're putting your
aesthetic sensibility up against a part of the user interface that
everyone understands.

If you're still determined to do this damn silly thing, style all <a>
elements with text-decoration:none.


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Em Thu, 06 Jan 2005 08:07:02 +0000, Mark Tranchant
<mark (AT) tranchant (DOT) plus.com> escreveu:

my usual solution is to use a subtle border-bottom with hover effects.
See the site in my sig for an example.

I like it, but I think it comes in contradiction with the acronym or abbr
tags effect that do a similar effect(bottom dotted border).


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Em Thu, 06 Jan 2005 00:34:36 -0500, Neal <neal413 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> escreveu:

And be sure not to rely on color or boldfacing to do it. Both have major
isses attached.

This is what I use most of the time.
What do you suggest instead?


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Kerberos <me (AT) privacy (DOT) net> wrote:

Neal <neal413 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>:

And be sure not to rely on color or boldfacing to do it. Both have
major isses attached.

This is what I use most of the time.
What do you suggest instead?

Underlining. It means "link" to WWW users. Colors mean nothing if the
user's eyes or equipment cannot handle color well. Bolding isn't bad
really (so long as you don't set it on hover but not on link, of
course) but underlining is the way people expect to find links.

The only un-underlined links ("derlined" links? ) I use are in a
list of what are clearly navigational elements.

Em Thu, 06 Jan 2005 13:49:11 -0500, Neal <neal413 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> escreveu:

It means "link" to WWW users. Colors mean nothing if the user's eyes or
equipment cannot handle color well.

I second that. There are norms that, if respected, add to accessibility.
Oh well, real world case are sometimes different - The important thing is
to take a dummy standpoint while creating the page, and see where
accessibility can be improved.

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Mason A. Clark wrote:

I have a page with many links. Browsers like
to underline the links -- result is ugly.

Is there any (CSS?) way to prevent underlining?

Yes. http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/text.html#propdef-text-decoration



(By the way, I decry the common practice
of making links hard to see -- at least
color them.)

Ha! I got slammed for the underlines, then I got
slammed for thinking of eliminating them.

Mason C loser I'll do it my way.