Help with font symbols

Andrew Thompson wrote:

As a matter of interest, could I ask what's the size of the .ttf file
TREBUC.TTF on your system? On this Win2K/Pro system, for comparison,
it's given as "63.5KB (65,100 bytes)".

I seem to have 2 copies, both same size
"123KB (126,796 bytes)"

OK, so I should add a "best viewed with the 123KB version of Trebuchet
MS" to my pages.

Thanks for the feedback.

--
Mark.

"Mark Tranchant" <mark (AT) tranchant (DOT) plus.com> wrote

Andrew Thompson wrote:

As a matter of interest, could I ask what's the size of the .ttf file
TREBUC.TTF on your system? On this Win2K/Pro system, for comparison,
it's given as "63.5KB (65,100 bytes)".

I seem to have 2 copies, both same size
"123KB (126,796 bytes)"

OK, so I should add a "best viewed with the 123KB version of Trebuchet
MS" to my pages.

Please say you're joking.

Harlan Messinger wrote:

"Mark Tranchant" <mark (AT) tranchant (DOT) plus.com> wrote in message
newsBoqc.4624$wI4.539681 (AT) wards (DOT) force9.net...

OK, so I should add a "best viewed with the 123KB version of Trebuchet
MS" to my pages.

Please say you're joking.

http://tranchant.plus.com/

;-)

--
Mark.

Mark Tranchant <mark (AT) tranchant (DOT) plus.com> wrote:

On my machine, Firefox renders the double prime with no problems, but
Internet Explorer renders it as a square.

I can confirm the observations made in this thread: Trebuchet MS has
different character repertoires in different Windows systems (the double
prime is present on the Win XP I'm using but not on Win 98).

But I made a strange observation: Opera shows the double prime properly
even on Win 98, but it shows the prime (used as a symbol for feet in the
document) as a straight, vertical symbol, like the Ascii apostrophe. The
strange thing is that it seems to be configured (by factory settings) to
use Times New Roman as the fallback font for General Punctuation block,
and that font has both the prime and the double prime.

It's probably nothing more than yet another oddity, not to be taken too
seriously. But I think the practical conclusion is pretty clear: it's
better to avoid the prime and the double primer on Web pages for a
general audience and use Ascii apostrophe and Ascii quotation mark as
surrogates - they are widely recognized and used in this function.

Alternatively, go metric. :-)

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On Tue, 18 May 2004, Mark Tranchant wrote:

http://tranchant.plus.com/cycling/gears/ratio
Just over half-way down is the sentence 'My wheels are approximately 27?
in diameter'.

Do *not* specify wheels and tyres in this obsolete unit inch!
Follow ETRTO and ISO 5775 and specify the diameter in millimetres.

<http://tandem-fahren.de/Technik/Reifentips/>
<http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/metric-system-faq.txt>
<http://www.google.com/search?q=ETRTO+millimeters>

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On Tue, 18 May 2004, Jukka K. Korpela wrote:

Alternatively, go metric. :-)

ETRTO requires designation of bicycle tyres in millimetres
since about 30 years.
<http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/iso-5775.html>

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Andreas Prilop wrote:

On Tue, 18 May 2004, Jukka K. Korpela wrote:

Alternatively, go metric. :-)

ETRTO requires designation of bicycle tyres in millimetres
since about 30 years.
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/iso-5775.html

You can pry my inch-based gear tables from the hands of my cold, dead
corpse. I hate metric gearing systems.

--
Mark.

On Tue, 18 May 2004, Brian wrote:

Could the same thing happen if a user configured IE/Win to use a font
that did not contain a required character?

Sure could. And as my page shows, the implications are far from
intuitive.
http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~flavell/...ers-fonts.html

So you need a very well-informed user of IE[1] in order to get a wide
character repertoire to work; but my point is that there's nothing
which a document author can do in the document to make it better for
them. Every well-intentioned proposal which might help some subset of
readers seems doomed to make things worse for some other subset.

[1] assuming of course that even when they are well-informed they
would still be using IE, rather than deciding Mozilla etc. was a
better choice.

Alan J. Flavell wrote:

On Tue, 18 May 2004, Arne wrote:


Would the entity for quotation mark be proper to use here,


"Proper"? No. A.Prilop should be along shortly to apply a
clue-iron...

OK, just asking :-)
I would use the entity &Prime;
But since the meter system is what we use, I print out "inch" on those
occasions I have to. :-)

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"Mark Tranchant" <mark (AT) tranchant (DOT) plus.com> wrote

Harlan Messinger wrote:
"Mark Tranchant" <mark (AT) tranchant (DOT) plus.com> wrote in message
newsBoqc.4624$wI4.539681 (AT) wards (DOT) force9.net...

OK, so I should add a "best viewed with the 123KB version of Trebuchet
MS" to my pages.

Please say you're joking.

http://tranchant.plus.com/

;-)

LOL!