font-size: 76.1%;

Sun, 04 Nov 2007 12:23:30 -0000 from 1001 Webs <1001webs (AT) gmail (DOT) com>:

I am trying to make my style sheet as compatible as possible and I'm
getting a bit confused here.

Yes, I'm afraid so. To begin with -- and I'm not just ragging on you
for your grammar - "as compatible as possible" doesn't mean anything.
You need to decide what you want to be compatible WITH. Internet
Explorer? Web standards? It can't be both, without a lot of extra
work.

I've read that the best size for font-size would be 76.1%; due to
shortcomings in the way both IE and Opera render that attribute.

Is this correct?

No, and really I think it should be obvious why. font-size:76.1%
means "Whatever size the visitor has decided is best, lop almost a
quarter off of that so that the type will be uncomfortably small."
That's wrong in *every* browser.

The 76.1% figure is suspiciously precise, though. Where did you get
this bit of bad advice?

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Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:23:00 -0000 from 1001 Webs <1001webs (AT) gmail (DOT) com>:

Well , maybe *she* has not bother to choose was best for *her*,
because no one has ever told *her* that *she* could so.

So you think that you know better than the visitor to your site what
is the best font size for her to read? Do you know her screen size
and resolution, what size window she has her browser open in, the
state of her eyesight, and so forth? I don't think so.

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Sun, 04 Nov 2007 12:42:52 -0500 from Jonathan N. Little
<lws4art (AT) centralva (DOT) net>:

Gee, I don't know...it seems like some site are improved with:

body { font-size: 1% !important; }

You forgot

color:#FFF; background-color:#FFF

:-)

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On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:25:06 -0000, 1001 Webs <1001webs (AT) gmail (DOT) com>
wrote:

I've read that the best size for font-size would be 76.1%; due to
shortcomings in the way both IE and Opera render that attribute.

Is this correct?

No.

You can of course find _examples_ on the web to support any crazy point
of view that you wish. We'd be more interested in seeing _why_ you or
they would argue in favour of this.

body { font-size : 100%; }

1001 Webs <1001webs (AT) gmail (DOT) com> writes:

Because when I use font-size: 100%; as the only directive my top row
grows too much
And the H1,2,3 don't look nice.

If 100% is too big in *your browser*, then fix your browser, by setting
it to use a smaller default size.

It doesn't happen with font-size:76%;

It doesn't happen to *you*, because *your browser* is using a default size
that is far too large for you. To the many others whose browsers are already
configured to use the correct default size for their eyesight, monitor, etc.,
76% will result in text that's unacceptably small.

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On 2007-11-04, Sherman Pendley wrote:

1001 Webs <1001webs (AT) gmail (DOT) com> writes:
....
It doesn't happen with font-size:76%;

It doesn't happen to *you*, because *your browser* is using a default size
that is far too large for you. To the many others whose browsers are already
configured to use the correct default size for their eyesight, monitor, etc.,
76% will result in text that's unacceptably small.

Many people set their browser defaults too large because of the
incredible number of sites that use ridiculously small font sizes
(like 76.1%).

What they should do is set a minimum font size in their browser
(this can be done in Firefox; I don't know about other browsers).
The small drawback is that you can lose the relative sizing when a
smaller font is appropriate (short phrases, legalese, footers,
etc.). On the other hand, it makes surfing the web a much more
pleasant experience without penalizing those who do a good job of
crating their sites.

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1001 Webs wrote:

body {font-size : 100.01%;} /* For Stupid Opera */

That was an issue in a now ancient version of Opera. It hasn't been an
issue in several years now, but a kludge like that never should have
been done in the first place.

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Stan Brown wrote:

Sun, 04 Nov 2007 12:42:52 -0500 from Jonathan N. Little
lws4art (AT) centralva (DOT) net>:

Gee, I don't know...it seems like some site are improved with:

body { font-size: 1% !important; }

You forgot

color:#FFF; background-color:#FFF

:-)

Hell, why not make it complete!

body { display: none; }

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Stan Brown wrote:

Sun, 04 Nov 2007 12:42:52 -0500 from Jonathan N. Little
lws4art (AT) centralva (DOT) net>:

Gee, I don't know...it seems like some site are improved with:

body { font-size: 1% !important; }

You forgot

color:#FFF; background-color:#FFF

:-)

Hey, I have something quite similar in my headers here. Take a peek.

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Blinky the Shark wrote:

Stan Brown wrote:
Sun, 04 Nov 2007 12:42:52 -0500 from Jonathan N. Little
lws4art (AT) centralva (DOT) net>:

Gee, I don't know...it seems like some site are improved with:

body { font-size: 1% !important; }
You forgot

color:#FFF; background-color:#FFF

:-)

Hey, I have something quite similar in my headers here. Take a peek.

What you playing with the poor fools using WebTV? Now there's a service
that makes AOL look good!

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