weird one - title not showing in Firefox

In article <47ea78d6$1_5 (AT) news (DOT) bluewin.ch>,
John Hosking <John (AT) DELETE (DOT) Hosking.name.INVALID> wrote:

That's what folks like about you, Travis: friendly and helpful

Especially the bit about go hire a graphics person...

--
dorayme

On Mar 26, 12:24 pm, John Hosking <J... (AT) DELETE (DOT) Hosking.name.INVALID>
wrote:

I was looking at your Flash header...
That's what folks like about you, Travis: friendly and helpful

I felt the sarcasm through the screen. What part of that was neither
helpful or friendly? You put your website out there, I commented on
it. All the comments are valid, and I not only told you what I
thought was wrong, I also offered a solution (or at the least,
direction)

On Mar 26, 5:08 pm, dorayme <doraymeRidT... (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote:
-> > That's what folks like about you, Travis: friendly and helpful
-> Especially the bit about go hire a graphics person...


Sorry, but if he wants to really make this thing top notch, then he
hires a graphics person. You can not disagree that a good graphics
person could improve the graphics used in that Flash animation and the
reflected images.

I still solicit outside graphics when ever a customer wants graphic I
can not provide. Nothing shameful in that, and it lets you offer
things that normally you couldn't do yourself. A one man shop does
not have to consist of just one man. The client has no idea if I
physically created a graphic or not. He doesn't care. All he cares
about is what I can deliver.

In article
<856af7f3-0bd5-423e-b67a-dc634587f59c (AT) b64g2000hsa (DOT) googlegroups.com>,
Travis Newbury <TravisNewbury (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

On Mar 26, 5:08 pm, dorayme <doraymeRidT... (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote:
-> > That's what folks like about you, Travis: friendly and helpful
-> Especially the bit about go hire a graphics person...


Sorry, but if he wants to really make this thing top notch, then he
hires a graphics person.

Travis, everyone knows this, so what's the point of saying it? People
avoid hiring experts in a particular field for all sorts of reasons,
many of which are fair enough.

--
dorayme

On Mar 26, 6:30 pm, dorayme <doraymeRidT... (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote:

Sorry, but if he wants to really make this thing top notch, then he
hires a graphics person.
Travis, everyone knows this, so what's the point of saying it?

Because some people won't go get some outside help unless you tell
them. You (not you persoanlly, but the proverbial you) let them know
they are not a failure if they run a one man shop but are not an
expert at all aspects of the job.

People
avoid hiring experts in a particular field for all sorts of reasons,
many of which are fair enough.

Other than financial I can not think of a good reason not to contract
out pieces you can't personally do.

On Mar 26, 12:51 pm, "mrcakey" <nos... (AT) spamispoo (DOT) com> wrote:

You made some valid points in your first response and I agree it does need
attending to when I have more time (it was made with a fairly old version of
Flash and I'll redo the lot in CS3), but 'you might want to hire a graphics
person' is, I think, a bit below the belt.

I thought it was very blunt, but not below the belt.

Travis Newbury wrote:

On Mar 26, 12:24 pm, John Hosking
wrote:
I was looking at your Flash header...
That's what folks like about you, Travis: friendly and helpful

I felt the sarcasm through the screen.

That's okay; I meant it this time. :-) Too often I try to be helpful,
and somebody responds seething about my sarcasm, and I think, "what
the...?" But this time it was deliberate.

What part of that was neither helpful or friendly?

I don't mean to suggest that your criticisms were without value; in fact
I don't want to evaluate them at all. (Except, well, I believe you
spelled "flare" wrong.)

My point was that he was asking about a missing title, by which I
assumed he meant <title>, which is indeed a pretty weird problem. And
you completely ignored that circumstance without even a mention of it
("Sorry, I can't help you with that, but I do a lot of Flash and I
noticed..."). Instead, you gave him 26 lines, without preamble, of "your
site is crap." Helpful it might eventually be, but it's hardly friendly.

You put your website out there, I commented on
it. All the comments are valid, and I not only told you what I
thought was wrong, I also offered a solution (or at the least,
direction)

You do realize that it's not my site, don't you?

--
John
If I ever actually do a Flash component for a site, I'll be glad of your
help. But for real graphics, I'd just hire a graphics person. Really.

In article
<5954ead8-da8f-4abb-8ecb-9179f351d3ae (AT) m34g2000hsc (DOT) googlegroups.com>,
Travis Newbury <TravisNewbury (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

On Mar 26, 6:30 pm, dorayme <doraymeRidT... (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote:
Sorry, but if he wants to really make this thing top notch, then he
hires a graphics person.
Travis, everyone knows this, so what's the point of saying it?

Because some people won't go get some outside help unless you tell
them.

Well, perhaps... I reckon it would be a rare thing for someone on a ng
to tell someone this and they go do it as a result.

People
avoid hiring experts in a particular field for all sorts of reasons,
many of which are fair enough.

Other than financial I can not think of a good reason not to contract
out pieces you can't personally do.

I can. It involves pride and what we might call personal philosophy of
making do for oneself. I am not particularly praising this here, just
letting you know it exists and it forms reasons for people. And bound up
with this is the motivator to do better and be more skilful in some area
that one uses a lot. There are some reasons besides financial.

--
dorayme

On Mar 26, 9:08 pm, dorayme <doraymeRidT... (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote:

Other than financial I can not think of a good reason not to contract
out pieces you can't personally do.

I can. It involves pride and what we might call personal philosophy of
making do for oneself. I am not particularly praising this here, just
letting you know it exists and it forms reasons for people. And bound up
with this is the motivator to do better and be more skilful in some area
that one uses a lot. There are some reasons besides financial.

See, I completely look at it the other way. The better people I
surround myself with the more I learn and the better I get to define
my craft. Like here, over the years (man it has been almost 6 years in
this ng) I have learned a lot. I don't always apply it the way others
would, but that is a different argument. I share my trade with anyone
willing to listen. And I learn when ever I can.

In article
<7314b873-9b0f-4560-a914-f6808f949c27 (AT) z38g2000hsc (DOT) googlegroups.com>,
Travis Newbury <TravisNewbury (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

On Mar 26, 9:08 pm, dorayme <doraymeRidT... (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote:
Other than financial I can not think of a good reason not to contract
out pieces you can't personally do.

I can. It involves pride and what we might call personal philosophy of
making do for oneself. I am not particularly praising this here, just
letting you know it exists and it forms reasons for people. And bound up
with this is the motivator to do better and be more skilful in some area
that one uses a lot. There are some reasons besides financial.

See, I completely look at it the other way. The better people I
surround myself with the more I learn and the better I get to define
my craft. Like here, over the years (man it has been almost 6 years in
this ng) I have learned a lot. I don't always apply it the way others
would, but that is a different argument. I share my trade with anyone
willing to listen. And I learn when ever I can.

I simply cannot see what this has to do with what I was pointing out.
But it is ok. Not to worry. I am sure OP will survive.

--
dorayme