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C A Upsdell
 
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Default Re: using non-system fonts in pages - 08-05-2004 , 04:16 PM






"mentalguy2004" <none (AT) none (DOT) com> wrote

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Hi,

Is it possible to use a non-system font in a web page, and have it seen by
visitors? I'd like to use a typewriter-like font for some text, so if
someone who doesn't have that font reads it, will it just be in their
default font? How can I make the visitor display the typewriter font
instead
of the default? Obviously I can see the alternative font because I have
installed it. I just wonder whether anyone else can?
Use CSS like:

font-family:"Courier New", Courier, monospace;

if you have another preferred font, put its name at the front of the list.






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Default Re: using non-system fonts in pages - 08-05-2004 , 04:36 PM






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"mentalguy2004" <none (AT) none (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Hi,

Is it possible to use a non-system font in a web page, and have it
seen by visitors? I'd like to use a typewriter-like font for some
text, so if someone who doesn't have that font reads it, will it just
be in their default font? How can I make the visitor display the
typewriter font
instead
of the default? Obviously I can see the alternative font because I
have installed it. I just wonder whether anyone else can?

Use CSS like:

font-family:"Courier New", Courier, monospace;

if you have another preferred font, put its name at the front of the
list.
Explanation: In CSS, monospace is not a font name itself; it refers to
the browser's default monospace font. So if the browser understands this
CSS (which nearly all browsers do, counting by percentage of users),
_some_ type of monospaced font will be rendered.

--
Accessible web designs go easily unnoticed;
the others are remembered and avoided forever.


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Matthias Gutfeldt
 
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Default Re: using non-system fonts in pages - 08-05-2004 , 04:57 PM



mentalguy2004 schrieb:
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So, for instance, if I use CSS and include "font-family:"Typewriter" ,
would you be able to see the text using this font if you don't actually have
the font on your system?
No.


Matthias


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John McGaw
 
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Default Re: using non-system fonts in pages - 08-05-2004 , 05:00 PM



"mentalguy2004" <none (AT) none (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Thanks, guys. What I'm getting at is, I downloaded a typewriter-like font
(so it's not actually a Windows-included font), so *I* have the font, but
my
visitors don't. So when I load the page, *I* can see the typewriter font,
but can someone else who *doesn't* have the font see it, or does it just
revert to their default?

So, for instance, if I use CSS and include "font-family:"Typewriter" ,
would you be able to see the text using this font if you don't actually
have
the font on your system?

"Sam Hughes" <hughes (AT) rpi (DOT) edu> wrote in message
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"mentalguy2004" <none (AT) none (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:4fxQc.521$um1.317 (AT) newsfe4-gui (DOT) ntli.net...
Hi,

Is it possible to use a non-system font in a web page, and have it
seen by visitors? I'd like to use a typewriter-like font for some
text, so if someone who doesn't have that font reads it, will it just
be in their default font? How can I make the visitor display the
typewriter font
instead
of the default? Obviously I can see the alternative font because I
have installed it. I just wonder whether anyone else can?

Use CSS like:

font-family:"Courier New", Courier, monospace;

if you have another preferred font, put its name at the front of the
list.

Explanation: In CSS, monospace is not a font name itself; it refers to
the browser's default monospace font. So if the browser understands
this
CSS (which nearly all browsers do, counting by percentage of users),
_some_ type of monospaced font will be rendered.

--
Accessible web designs go easily unnoticed;
the others are remembered and avoided forever.

If you want to be ABSOLUTELY (well relatively absolutely) sure that the
viewers can see exactly what you intend no matter what fonts are installed
on their system then you will probably have to create the text as an image
and insert that. There seem to have been some attempts at embedding fonts
into pages but it was never well supported and now looks like a dead issue.
Of course there is still the problem of text-only browsers which won't see
any of it no matter what you do...
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[Knoxville, TN, USA]
http://johnmcgaw.com




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mentalguy2004
 
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Default using non-system fonts in pages - 08-05-2004 , 05:01 PM



Hi,

Is it possible to use a non-system font in a web page, and have it seen by
visitors? I'd like to use a typewriter-like font for some text, so if
someone who doesn't have that font reads it, will it just be in their
default font? How can I make the visitor display the typewriter font instead
of the default? Obviously I can see the alternative font because I have
installed it. I just wonder whether anyone else can?

thanks.



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Sam Hughes
 
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Default Re: using non-system fonts in pages - 08-05-2004 , 05:02 PM



"John McGaw" <nowhere (AT) at (DOT) all> wrote in
news:7dxQc.1641$923.881 (AT) bignews1 (DOT) bellsouth.net:

Quote:
If you want to be ABSOLUTELY (well relatively absolutely) sure that
the viewers can see exactly what you intend no matter what fonts are
installed on their system then you will probably have to create the
text as an image and insert that. There seem to have been some
attempts at embedding fonts into pages but it was never well supported
and now looks like a dead issue. Of course there is still the problem
of text-only browsers which won't see any of it no matter what you
do...
Oh and bandwidth. And resizing.

--
Accessible web designs go easily unnoticed;
the others are remembered and avoided forever.


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Neal
 
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Default Re: using non-system fonts in pages - 08-05-2004 , 05:30 PM



On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 22:07:28 GMT, mentalguy2004 <none (AT) none (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
OK, thanks a lot everyone, for your quick and helpful answers. I needed
to
use the font on a page with updating text, so using jpg's isn't really an
option except for the static stuff. Courier it is then!

thanks again, much appreciated.



Be sure you ask for something like {font-family:"Courier New", Courier,
monospace;} or the browser won't know to replace it with a monospace if
the font isn't present...


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Sam Hughes
 
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Default Re: using non-system fonts in pages - 08-05-2004 , 05:43 PM



"mentalguy2004" <none (AT) none (DOT) com> wrote in
news:AcyQc.564$um1.38 (AT) newsfe4-gui (DOT) ntli.net:

Quote:
OK, thanks a lot everyone, for your quick and helpful answers. I
needed to use the font on a page with updating text, so using jpg's
isn't really an option except for the static stuff. Courier it is
then!
No, don't use jpg's for the static stuff either. Images should be images,
links should be links, and text should be text.

Using images of text is basically a terrible thing.

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mentalguy2004
 
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Default Re: using non-system fonts in pages - 08-05-2004 , 05:52 PM



Thanks, guys. What I'm getting at is, I downloaded a typewriter-like font
(so it's not actually a Windows-included font), so *I* have the font, but my
visitors don't. So when I load the page, *I* can see the typewriter font,
but can someone else who *doesn't* have the font see it, or does it just
revert to their default?

So, for instance, if I use CSS and include "font-family:"Typewriter" ,
would you be able to see the text using this font if you don't actually have
the font on your system?

"Sam Hughes" <hughes (AT) rpi (DOT) edu> wrote

Quote:
"C A Upsdell" <cupsdell0311XXX@-@- (AT) XXXrogers (DOT) com> wrote in
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"mentalguy2004" <none (AT) none (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:4fxQc.521$um1.317 (AT) newsfe4-gui (DOT) ntli.net...
Hi,

Is it possible to use a non-system font in a web page, and have it
seen by visitors? I'd like to use a typewriter-like font for some
text, so if someone who doesn't have that font reads it, will it just
be in their default font? How can I make the visitor display the
typewriter font
instead
of the default? Obviously I can see the alternative font because I
have installed it. I just wonder whether anyone else can?

Use CSS like:

font-family:"Courier New", Courier, monospace;

if you have another preferred font, put its name at the front of the
list.

Explanation: In CSS, monospace is not a font name itself; it refers to
the browser's default monospace font. So if the browser understands this
CSS (which nearly all browsers do, counting by percentage of users),
_some_ type of monospaced font will be rendered.

--
Accessible web designs go easily unnoticed;
the others are remembered and avoided forever.



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mentalguy2004
 
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Default Re: using non-system fonts in pages - 08-05-2004 , 06:07 PM



OK, thanks a lot everyone, for your quick and helpful answers. I needed to
use the font on a page with updating text, so using jpg's isn't really an
option except for the static stuff. Courier it is then!

thanks again, much appreciated.


"Sam Hughes" <hughes (AT) rpi (DOT) edu> wrote

Quote:
"John McGaw" <nowhere (AT) at (DOT) all> wrote in
news:7dxQc.1641$923.881 (AT) bignews1 (DOT) bellsouth.net:

If you want to be ABSOLUTELY (well relatively absolutely) sure that
the viewers can see exactly what you intend no matter what fonts are
installed on their system then you will probably have to create the
text as an image and insert that. There seem to have been some
attempts at embedding fonts into pages but it was never well supported
and now looks like a dead issue. Of course there is still the problem
of text-only browsers which won't see any of it no matter what you
do...

Oh and bandwidth. And resizing.

--
Accessible web designs go easily unnoticed;
the others are remembered and avoided forever.



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