Stylesheet question

Currently i offer 4 stylesheets,
the user can use the php based style switcher to select a different
stylesheet. (code was found on this group )

Do i also need to link the stylesheets in the html as alternate stylesheet?

Or isn't there any need, since i allready offer a way of picking a different
stylesheet?



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Am 02.11.2003 14:15 schrieb Samuël van Laere:

Do i also need to link the stylesheets in the html as alternate stylesheet?

Or isn't there any need, since i allready offer a way of picking a different
stylesheet?
There is no need for that in technical sense. But Mozilla(Firebird)

users will be happier, since their browsers offer to change style sheets
based on the <link>-tag in your HTML code, without having to use your
PHP script.

So if you can offer it, do it.

Fabian

In article Samuël van Laere wrote:

Currently i offer 4 stylesheets,
the user can use the php based style switcher to select a different
stylesheet. (code was found on this group )

OK.

Do i also need to link the stylesheets in the html as alternate stylesheet?

It wouldn't do much harm.

Or isn't there any need, since i allready offer a way of picking a different
stylesheet?

Not with current implementions of browsers, on normal situations.

I don't think multible stylesheets for same media are usefull exept maybe
when there is some idiot boss somewhere that demands bells and whisles,
and only way to get reasonable style is to do it using alternate
stylesheet (and then look server logs in hope alternate stylesheet will
be used more than default).

Of course, there is exeptions.


Of course, if one aim is to learn how to make stylesheets, it doesn't
hurt to put them in use. But for webpage, it usually is more usefull to
add more content.

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Fabian Neumann wrote:

There is no need for that in technical sense. But Mozilla(Firebird)
users will be happier, since their browsers offer to change style sheets
based on the <link>-tag in your HTML code, without having to use your
PHP script.

Ditto regular Mozilla, ditto Opera, ditto Konqueror[1].

*However* a PHP style switcher is in many ways *better* than just relying
on rel="alternate stylesheet", as browsers don't[2] carry over the choice
of an alternate stylesheet when you go on to the next page :-(

Of course, *best* is to offer both. (Which I do)

[1] Konqueror 3 does funny things with alternate style sheets. When a list
of alternate stylesheets is given, it uses the first one by default! I
have yet to add a workaround to my site, although I do plan to do so[3].
Safari does not suffer from this bug. More details here:
http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54335

[2] Except Konqueror.

[3] I generally don't work around bugs in browsers, but the fix should be
pretty easy.

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Fabian Neumann <news.for.pporg (AT) spamgourmet (DOT) org> wrote:

But Mozilla(Firebird)
users will be happier, since their browsers offer to change style
sheets based on the <link>-tag in your HTML code

What exactly is this code?
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Fabian Neumann wrote:

There is no need for that in technical sense. But Mozilla(Firebird)
users will be happier, since their browsers offer to change style sheets
based on the <link>-tag in your HTML code, without having to use your
PHP script.

Ditto regular Mozilla, ditto Opera, ditto Konqueror[1].

*However* a PHP style switcher is in many ways *better* than just relying
on rel="alternate stylesheet", as browsers don't[2] carry over the choice
of an alternate stylesheet when you go on to the next page :-(

Of course, *best* is to offer both. (Which I do)

[1] Konqueror 3 does funny things with alternate style sheets. When a list
of alternate stylesheets is given, it uses the first one by default! I
have yet to add a workaround to my site, although I do plan to do so[3].
Safari does not suffer from this bug. More details here:
http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54335

[2] Except Konqueror.

[3] I generally don't work around bugs in browsers, but the fix should be
pretty easy.

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Fabian and Toby,
thanks for the answers they are mosy usefull.
What kind of workaround could i use?
I wonder if i should bother anyhow, the next build/version is likely to
solve that isue right?



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Fabian Neumann wrote:

There is no need for that in technical sense. But Mozilla(Firebird)
users will be happier, since their browsers offer to change style sheets
based on the <link>-tag in your HTML code, without having to use your
PHP script.

Ditto regular Mozilla, ditto Opera, ditto Konqueror[1].

*However* a PHP style switcher is in many ways *better* than just relying
on rel="alternate stylesheet", as browsers don't[2] carry over the choice
of an alternate stylesheet when you go on to the next page :-(
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I'm using the script you wrote Toby (i think) it works great



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I'm using the script you wrote Toby (i think) it works great

Any chance of making it available for me.

thanks
David

Owen Jacobson wrote:

Samukl van Laere wrote in alt.html:
Hello David,
This is the code as it was published by Toby:
============================ example.php =============================
!DOCTYPE whatever
?php
$s = $_GET['style'];
if (!($s)) { $s = 'red'; }
?
[snip]
link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" media="screen,projection"
?php echo ' href="styles/' . $s . '.css"'; ?
[snip]
One might note that there's a potential security issue with allowing
the user to put anything they want in the $s variable.

There is no security issue. So what if the user puts something odd in $s?
It's not like I did an "include($s)".

[newsgroups set back to include alt.html, as I don't read comp.lang.php --
PHP sucks]

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Toby A Inkster <UseTheAddressInMySig (AT) deadspam (DOT) com> wrote


<snip>

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Then why stay here? Just get lost out of PHP.

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