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Default Re: repeating headers of table - 06-03-2004 , 04:16 AM







"serge desmedt" <sergeswork (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

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Hi,

When using the following HTML, i do not ghet repeatinh headers in the
print
preview of internet explorer 6.0
<snip html>


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When i look on the internet i should have repeating headers.

What am i doing wrong?
Using IE, which does not support table headers correctly.

Cheers
Richard.




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Default Re: repeating headers of table - 06-03-2004 , 04:43 AM






I just installed Opera 7.51 and it doesn't work neither.



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"serge desmedt" <sergeswork (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Hi,

When using the following HTML, i do not ghet repeatinh headers in the
print
preview of internet explorer 6.0

snip html


When i look on the internet i should have repeating headers.

What am i doing wrong?

Using IE, which does not support table headers correctly.

Cheers
Richard.





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Default Re: repeating headers of table - 06-03-2004 , 04:52 AM



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"serge desmedt" <sergeswork (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

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"rf" <rf (AT) example (DOT) com> wrote in message
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"serge desmedt" <sergeswork (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
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When using the following HTML, i do not ghet repeatinh [table] headers
in the
print
preview of internet explorer 6.0
What am i doing wrong?

Using IE, which does not support table headers correctly.

I just installed Opera 7.51 and it doesn't work neither.
So, opera is broken as well. Does not surprise me :-).

Try Mozilla.

Cheers
Richard.




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Default Re: repeating headers of table - 06-03-2004 , 05:50 AM



apparently TFOOT doesn't work in mozilla eather, but THEAD does.
However i found a solution for IE.
Thanks for your help.


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"serge desmedt" <sergeswork (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
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"rf" <rf (AT) example (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:n7Bvc.3639$rz4.2850 (AT) news-server (DOT) bigpond.net.au...

"serge desmedt" <sergeswork (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:40beda95$0$8404$a0ced6e1 (AT) news (DOT) skynet.be...

When using the following HTML, i do not ghet repeatinh [table]
headers
in the
print
preview of internet explorer 6.0
What am i doing wrong?

Using IE, which does not support table headers correctly.

I just installed Opera 7.51 and it doesn't work neither.

So, opera is broken as well. Does not surprise me :-).

Try Mozilla.

Cheers
Richard.





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Default Re: repeating headers of table - 06-03-2004 , 06:23 AM




"serge desmedt" <sergeswork (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

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apparently TFOOT doesn't work in mozilla eather, but THEAD does.
However i found a solution for IE.
Well? What is it? I'm intrigued...

Cheers
Richard.




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Default Re: repeating headers of table - 06-03-2004 , 07:30 AM



<STYLE type="text/css">

THEAD { display: table-header-group; }
TFOOT { display: table-footer-group; }

</STYLE>




"rf" <rf (AT) example (DOT) com> wrote

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"serge desmedt" <sergeswork (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:40bef33a$0$296$a0ced6e1 (AT) news (DOT) skynet.be...
apparently TFOOT doesn't work in mozilla eather, but THEAD does.
However i found a solution for IE.

Well? What is it? I'm intrigued...

Cheers
Richard.





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Default Re: repeating headers of table - 06-04-2004 , 06:52 PM



"serge desmedt" <sergeswork (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

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THEAD { display: table-header-group; }
TFOOT { display: table-footer-group; }
This is rather surprising. Where did you find this?

It's surprising that IE sort-of supports thead and tbody if you use such
CSS. Is it documented somewhere? Moreover, it seems that IE leaves some
spurious empty row before the footer row - though this may depend.

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Default Re: repeating headers of table - 06-04-2004 , 08:45 PM



"Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela (AT) cs (DOT) tut.fi> writes:

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"serge desmedt" <sergeswork (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

THEAD { display: table-header-group; }
TFOOT { display: table-footer-group; }

It's surprising that IE sort-of supports thead and tbody if you use such
CSS. Is it documented somewhere?
Surely you are joking?

<http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS2/tables.html#value-def-table-header-group>

It's probably just part of the customer experience strategy if the
proposed default rendering is not all of a sudden viciously available as
a default.


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Default Re: repeating headers of table - 06-05-2004 , 12:41 AM



On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 02:45:04 +0200, Eric B. Bednarz wrote:

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"Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela (AT) cs (DOT) tut.fi> writes:

"serge desmedt" <sergeswork (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

THEAD { display: table-header-group; }
TFOOT { display: table-footer-group; }

It's surprising that IE sort-of supports thead and tbody if you use such
CSS. Is it documented somewhere?

Surely you are joking?

http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS2/tables.htm...e-header-group
I think he meant "Is it documented that IE behaves this way?".

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It's probably just part of the customer experience strategy if the
proposed default rendering is not all of a sudden viciously available as
a default.
That, I'd buy. It seems spectacularly stupid that this isn't part of IE's
default rendering of the elements those CSS display values are essentially
named after...

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Default Re: repeating headers of table - 06-05-2004 , 08:09 AM



Owen Jacobson <angstrom (AT) lionsanctuary (DOT) net> wrote:

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I think he meant "Is it documented that IE behaves this way?".
Yes I did. And after some searching I actually found it. Microsoft has
documented it in the description of the 'display' property! It defines
the meaning of some values for the property as follows:

table-header-group Table header is always displayed before all other
rows and row groups, and after any top captions. The header is displayed
on each page spanned by a table.

table-footer-group Table footer is always displayed after all other
rows and row groups, and before any bottom captions. The footer is
displayed on each page spanned by a table.

<http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/a...ce/properties/
display.asp>

The descriptions do not echo the definitions in CSS specifications, which
are more abstract in this issue. So they are presumably meant to describe
the specific IE behavior

The document claims that the default for <thead>, <tfoot>, and <tbody> is
display: none, which of course isn't true. (By CSS rules, if you set
display: none for an element, the element is not shown, not matter what
you set for inner elements.) But this is probably meant to say that the
behavior described above is not default behavior but can be invoked in
CSS.

The feature is _not_ mentioned in the description of the <thead> element
at
<http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/a...rence/objects/
thead.asp>

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It's probably just part of the customer experience strategy if the
proposed default rendering is not all of a sudden viciously
available as a default.

That, I'd buy. It seems spectacularly stupid that this isn't part of
IE's default rendering of the elements those CSS display values are
essentially named after...
If a browser implemented thead and tfoot in an optimal way, the default
rendering would probably consist of making the header and footer repeat
on each printed page _and_ making the rest of the table, i.e. tbody
element(s), appear in a scrollable area between the header and footer
in screen rendering - naturally assuming that the size of the table
exceeds some reasonable limit. This is more or less the general idea. And
unfortunately there is no way to make IE do the latter using CSS - or is
there?

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