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Default Re: OT: Internet Explorer version 7.x - 10-05-2004 , 06:40 AM






Steve MacLellan wrote:
Quote:
Hi,

I guess ol' Bill is guaranteed to make at least a few million from the
next OS release code named Longhorn. Since the next version of Windows
will be the only way to get Internet Explorer version 7, millions of
web developers will have to have it just to check their web pages.

That doesn't seem right to me.

Best Regards,
Steve MacLellan

Wont happen. IE is hopelessly behind all other browsers right now, and
Longhorn (Windows 6.0) is at least 2 years away. Imagine how much
further along other browsers will be by the time MS release another
version of IE? Bear in mind, the award winning Open Source browser
FireFox was created in not much more than a year... IE lost 10% of it's
share in the last 18 months. Imagine how few people will be using it by
2007! (I pray!)

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mark | r
 
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Default Re: OT: Internet Explorer version 7.x - 10-05-2004 , 06:57 AM







"SpaceGirl" <NOtheSpaceGirlSPAM (AT) subhuman (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
Steve MacLellan wrote:
Hi,

I guess ol' Bill is guaranteed to make at least a few million from the
next OS release code named Longhorn. Since the next version of Windows
will be the only way to get Internet Explorer version 7, millions of
web developers will have to have it just to check their web pages.

That doesn't seem right to me.

Best Regards,
Steve MacLellan


Wont happen. IE is hopelessly behind all other browsers right now, and
Longhorn (Windows 6.0) is at least 2 years away. Imagine how much further
along other browsers will be by the time MS release another version of IE?
Bear in mind, the award winning Open Source browser FireFox was created in
not much more than a year... IE lost 10% of it's share in the last 18
months. Imagine how few people will be using it by 2007! (I pray!)
Hi miranda,

dont believe the hype - according to thecounter.com which logs traffic from
millions of sites - Geko browsers still represent only 2% of internet users.

http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2004...er/browser.php

i dont know where 10% came from - if its from your own stats then maybe
youre being hit by loads of mac users

mark




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SpaceGirl
 
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Default Re: OT: Internet Explorer version 7.x - 10-05-2004 , 07:03 AM



mark | r wrote:
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"SpaceGirl" <NOtheSpaceGirlSPAM (AT) subhuman (DOT) net> wrote in message
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Steve MacLellan wrote:

Hi,

I guess ol' Bill is guaranteed to make at least a few million from the
next OS release code named Longhorn. Since the next version of Windows
will be the only way to get Internet Explorer version 7, millions of
web developers will have to have it just to check their web pages.

That doesn't seem right to me.

Best Regards,
Steve MacLellan


Wont happen. IE is hopelessly behind all other browsers right now, and
Longhorn (Windows 6.0) is at least 2 years away. Imagine how much further
along other browsers will be by the time MS release another version of IE?
Bear in mind, the award winning Open Source browser FireFox was created in
not much more than a year... IE lost 10% of it's share in the last 18
months. Imagine how few people will be using it by 2007! (I pray!)


Hi miranda,

dont believe the hype - according to thecounter.com which logs traffic from
millions of sites - Geko browsers still represent only 2% of internet users.

http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2004...er/browser.php

i dont know where 10% came from - if its from your own stats then maybe
youre being hit by loads of mac users

mark


Hmm not sure where I read it - but I think it was global (not just
Firefox). Even theregister.com was reporting the slide a few months ago.
It was mostly driven by all the virus and security scares earlier in the
year. My own stats do NOT reflect this though - my busiest server gets
about 95% IE, and 5% the rest.

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Edwin van der Vaart
 
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Default Re: OT: Internet Explorer version 7.x - 10-05-2004 , 07:09 AM



SpaceGirl schreef:
Quote:
Steve MacLellan wrote:

Hi,

I guess ol' Bill is guaranteed to make at least a few million from the
next OS release code named Longhorn. Since the next version of Windows
will be the only way to get Internet Explorer version 7, millions of
web developers will have to have it just to check their web pages.

That doesn't seem right to me.

Best Regards,
Steve MacLellan


Wont happen. IE is hopelessly behind all other browsers right now, and
Longhorn (Windows 6.0) is at least 2 years away. Imagine how much
further along other browsers will be by the time MS release another
version of IE? Bear in mind, the award winning Open Source browser
FireFox was created in not much more than a year... IE lost 10% of it's
share in the last 18 months. Imagine how few people will be using it by
2007! (I pray!)
The same amount of people how don't know much about pc's.
The only thing they know is MSN and OE.

Or perhaps Billy implement Mozilla as browser and email prog. instead of
IE and OE in 2007.
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mark | r
 
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Default Re: OT: Internet Explorer version 7.x - 10-05-2004 , 07:51 AM




"brucie" <shit (AT) usenetshit (DOT) info> wrote

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In alt.html mark | r said:
dont believe the hype
exactly
according to thecounter.com which logs traffic from millions of sites
- Geko browsers still represent only 2% of internet users.

remember to take into account:
a) the small sample size.
b) the type of sites thecounter is used on (i.e. clueless newbie).
c) the type of people who visit those sites (i.e. clueless newbie).
d) how the "stats" are collected.
e) use of filtering software.
id trust these independent stats over anything proclaimed by a software
development company

mark




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mark | r
 
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Default Re: OT: Internet Explorer version 7.x - 10-05-2004 , 08:03 AM




"Edwin van der Vaart" <picayunish2000 (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk> wrote

Quote:
SpaceGirl schreef:
Steve MacLellan wrote:

Hi,

I guess ol' Bill is guaranteed to make at least a few million from the
next OS release code named Longhorn. Since the next version of Windows
will be the only way to get Internet Explorer version 7, millions of
web developers will have to have it just to check their web pages.

That doesn't seem right to me.

Best Regards,
Steve MacLellan


Wont happen. IE is hopelessly behind all other browsers right now, and
Longhorn (Windows 6.0) is at least 2 years away. Imagine how much further
along other browsers will be by the time MS release another version of
IE? Bear in mind, the award winning Open Source browser FireFox was
created in not much more than a year... IE lost 10% of it's share in the
last 18 months. Imagine how few people will be using it by 2007! (I
pray!)

The same amount of people how don't know much about pc's.
The only thing they know is MSN and OE.

Or perhaps Billy implement Mozilla as browser and email prog. instead of
IE and OE in 2007.
I like firefox - its just quirky as hell - for some reason I cant manually
edit urls in the location box - I have to click at the end of the url and
use the arrow keys to get to the bit I want to edit - why cant I just place
the caret within the string - grrr

there's other stuff but this is the most reoccurring.

It was published back in April that there would be an incrimental update of
IE prior to Longhorn - i hope they didnt mean the sp2 update.


mark




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Edwin van der Vaart
 
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Default Re: OT: Internet Explorer version 7.x - 10-05-2004 , 08:28 AM



ark | r schreef:

[snip]

Quote:
I like firefox - its just quirky as hell - for some reason I cant manually
edit urls in the location box - I have to click at the end of the url and
use the arrow keys to get to the bit I want to edit - why cant I just place
the caret within the string - grrr
No problems with Firefox 0.9.3 on a Linux/Mandrake 9.2 and Firefox 1.0PR
on Windows 2000 sp4.

Quote:
there's other stuff but this is the most reoccurring.

It was published back in April that there would be an incrimental update of
IE prior to Longhorn - i hope they didnt mean the sp2 update.
What do you think...
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Martin Jay
 
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Default Re: OT: Internet Explorer version 7.x - 10-05-2004 , 08:46 AM



In message <41628db0$0$15840$cc9e4d1f (AT) news (DOT) dial.pipex.com>, mark | r
<markrush (AT) gmail (DOT) com> writes

Quote:
I like firefox - its just quirky as hell - for some reason I cant manually
edit urls in the location box - I have to click at the end of the url and
use the arrow keys to get to the bit I want to edit - why cant I just place
the caret within the string - grrr
Internet Explorer certainly has some quirks of its own.

When I click on a URL in the location box the whole thing is
highlighted. I can then click a second time at a particular point in
the string and edit it from there. The same happens in Internet
Explorer.

I think it's a Windows feature. One click highlights whatever is in the
box, two quick clicks highlights a 'word' and one click, pause, then
another click places the cursor.
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Steve MacLellan
 
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Default OT: Internet Explorer version 7.x - 10-05-2004 , 09:11 AM



Hi,

I guess ol' Bill is guaranteed to make at least a few million from the
next OS release code named Longhorn. Since the next version of Windows
will be the only way to get Internet Explorer version 7, millions of
web developers will have to have it just to check their web pages.

That doesn't seem right to me.

Best Regards,
Steve MacLellan

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Default Re: OT: Internet Explorer version 7.x - 10-05-2004 , 09:57 AM



"mark | r" <markrush (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
dont believe the hype - according to thecounter.com which logs traffic
from millions of sites - Geko browsers still represent only 2% of internet
users.

http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2004...er/browser.php

i dont know where 10% came from - if its from your own stats then maybe
youre being hit by loads of mac users
Wrong. TheCounter says that 4.3% are from Gecko-based browsers. Some sites
attract fewer people, but some attract many more: for my site, 36% use
Gecko-based browsers.







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