Newbie Navigation questions

I work in Dreamweaver.
What is the best way to handle navigation bars when making a website? Mainly
so it doesn't have to be updated on each page individually if something
changes?
I hear Frames are not the best way to go?

Do I make a template? With templates I find that there is often something I
forgot to make into an editable region, and ultimately goof myself up and
wind up detaching pages from the template... Probably chalk it up to
inexperience???

Can you make a navigation bar as a server side include? I dabbled with it a
little bit the other day, and can't get it to work right. It shows up in
dreamweaver, but not on the testing server, apache cased... using <!--
include... (or whatever the syntax is, I don't know it yet without looking
it up.)

Some other way? Any good tutorials/tips and tricks on this?

Thanks a bunch

DaKitty enlightened us with:

What is the best way to handle navigation bars when making a
website? Mainly so it doesn't have to be updated on each page
individually if something changes?

I found Smarty (built in PHP) a very good choice.

I hear Frames are not the best way to go?

Nope.

Sybren
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capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the
safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?

"DaKitty" <Imgonna (AT) dotcomsomething (DOT) net> wrote

I work in Dreamweaver.
What is the best way to handle navigation bars when making a website?
Mainly
so it doesn't have to be updated on each page individually if something
changes?
I hear Frames are not the best way to go?

Do I make a template? With templates I find that there is often something
I
forgot to make into an editable region, and ultimately goof myself up and
wind up detaching pages from the template... Probably chalk it up to
inexperience???

Can you make a navigation bar as a server side include? I dabbled with it
a
little bit the other day, and can't get it to work right. It shows up in
dreamweaver, but not on the testing server, apache cased... using <!--
include... (or whatever the syntax is, I don't know it yet without looking
it up.)

Some other way? Any good tutorials/tips and tricks on this?

Thanks a bunch

okay, so I found the Ask Leo tutorial about SSI's...
I have a really stupid question!

the line: <!--#include FILE="b.inc" -->
Is my file extension going to be .inc? or is it .htm in case of html file?
If I include the html file, I take it I only need the body part, not the
entire page?
If that page has some JSP in it in order to function, do I need to do
anything special to them?

here's a link to the page I was trying to use as a SSI to another page:
http://www.mastersmvnswim.org/images...1/buttons1.htm

Can I put an SSI into a dreamweaver layer or is that not a good idea?

In article <RYxkd.260015$a85.215343@fed1read04>,
Imgonna (AT) dotcomsomething (DOT) net says...

I work in Dreamweaver.
What is the best way to handle navigation bars when making a website? Mainly
so it doesn't have to be updated on each page individually if something
changes?
I hear Frames are not the best way to go?

I prefer links, just plain ol links.

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In article <2lykd.260874$a85.149850@fed1read04>, "DaKitty"
<Imgonna (AT) dotcomsomething (DOT) net> wrote:

okay, so I found the Ask Leo tutorial about SSI's...
I have a really stupid question!

I don't even remember writing it ;-) There could be more than one person
calling themselves leo I suppose.

the line: <!--#include FILE="b.inc" --
Is my file extension going to be .inc? or is it .htm in case of html file?
If I include the html file, I take it I only need the body part, not the
entire page?

A famous error is writing a complete HTML file and doing an include on it.
Then you get two heads and/or two bodies, etc in the file you are
including in. Give thought to the included file so that it makes
structural sense in the including document.

Can I put an SSI into a dreamweaver layer or is that not a good idea?

No idea.

leo

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Without quill or qualm, DaKitty quothed:

"DaKitty" <Imgonna (AT) dotcomsomething (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:RYxkd.260015$a85.215343 (AT) fed1read04 (DOT) ..
I work in Dreamweaver.
What is the best way to handle navigation bars when making a website?
Mainly
so it doesn't have to be updated on each page individually if something
changes?
I hear Frames are not the best way to go?

Do I make a template? With templates I find that there is often something
I
forgot to make into an editable region, and ultimately goof myself up and
wind up detaching pages from the template... Probably chalk it up to
inexperience???

Can you make a navigation bar as a server side include? I dabbled with it
a
little bit the other day, and can't get it to work right. It shows up in
dreamweaver, but not on the testing server, apache cased... using <!--
include... (or whatever the syntax is, I don't know it yet without looking
it up.)

Some other way? Any good tutorials/tips and tricks on this?

Thanks a bunch

okay, so I found the Ask Leo tutorial about SSI's...
I have a really stupid question!

the line: <!--#include FILE="b.inc" --
Is my file extension going to be .inc? or is it .htm in case of html file?
If I include the html file, I take it I only need the body part, not the
entire page?

The file you include into the html document is just a text file -
comprised of the same text that you'd otherwise enter by hand. The
extension can be .txt or .doc or anything not otherwise mimed.

If that page has some JSP in it in order to function, do I need to do
anything special to them?

here's a link to the page I was trying to use as a SSI to another page:
http://www.mastersmvnswim.org/images...1/buttons1.htm

Can I put an SSI into a dreamweaver layer or is that not a good idea?

Code by hand. Slower (maybe) but better.

--
Neredbojias
Contrary to popular belief, it is believable.

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 20:37:31 -0500, Travis Newbury <tn (AT) swngers (DOT) com>
wrote:

In article <RYxkd.260015$a85.215343@fed1read04>,
Imgonna (AT) dotcomsomething (DOT) net says...
I work in Dreamweaver.
What is the best way to handle navigation bars when making a website? Mainly
so it doesn't have to be updated on each page individually if something
changes?
I hear Frames are not the best way to go?

I prefer links, just plain ol links.

Frames are bad news.

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home of SEO that's shiny!

"Leonard Blaisdell" <leo (AT) greatbasin (DOT) com> wrote

In article <2lykd.260874$a85.149850@fed1read04>, "DaKitty"
Imgonna (AT) dotcomsomething (DOT) net> wrote:

okay, so I found the Ask Leo tutorial about SSI's...
I have a really stupid question!

I don't even remember writing it ;-) There could be more than one person
calling themselves leo I suppose.

the line: <!--#include FILE="b.inc" --
Is my file extension going to be .inc? or is it .htm in case of html
file?
If I include the html file, I take it I only need the body part, not the
entire page?

A famous error is writing a complete HTML file and doing an include on it.

Ah! I discovered that the hard way yesterday!

Then you get two heads and/or two bodies, etc in the file you are
including in. Give thought to the included file so that it makes
structural sense in the including document.

It works in dreamweaver, but when I upload thing to the website, or just
test it in IE locally, nothing is showing up.
I have pages that other people created, with the include, and when I test
them, they work, on the server and locally... So, it must be me doing
something wrong, and I haven't figured out what it is yet!
Frustrating!
Well, I just scrapped what I did yesterday, and going to try it from
scratch, see what happens.

Thank You for the Help

"Neredbojias" <neredbojias (AT) neredbojias (DOT) com> wrote

Without quill or qualm, DaKitty quothed:


"DaKitty" <Imgonna (AT) dotcomsomething (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:RYxkd.260015$a85.215343 (AT) fed1read04 (DOT) ..
I work in Dreamweaver.
What is the best way to handle navigation bars when making a website?
Mainly
so it doesn't have to be updated on each page individually if
something
changes?
I hear Frames are not the best way to go?

Do I make a template? With templates I find that there is often
something
I
forgot to make into an editable region, and ultimately goof myself up
and
wind up detaching pages from the template... Probably chalk it up to
inexperience???

Can you make a navigation bar as a server side include? I dabbled
with it
a
little bit the other day, and can't get it to work right. It shows up
in
dreamweaver, but not on the testing server, apache cased... using <!--
include... (or whatever the syntax is, I don't know it yet without
looking
it up.)

Some other way? Any good tutorials/tips and tricks on this?

Thanks a bunch

okay, so I found the Ask Leo tutorial about SSI's...
I have a really stupid question!

the line: <!--#include FILE="b.inc" --
Is my file extension going to be .inc? or is it .htm in case of html
file?
If I include the html file, I take it I only need the body part, not the
entire page?

The file you include into the html document is just a text file -
comprised of the same text that you'd otherwise enter by hand. The
extension can be .txt or .doc or anything not otherwise mimed.

Yea, that's what I'm starting to gather.
Still can't get it to show up in IE :-\ [scratching head]

If that page has some JSP in it in order to function, do I need to do
anything special to them?

here's a link to the page I was trying to use as a SSI to another page:
http://www.mastersmvnswim.org/images...1/buttons1.htm

Can I put an SSI into a dreamweaver layer or is that not a good idea?

Code by hand. Slower (maybe) but better.

I wish! I'm still too green for that.
I do have the code window open in dreamweaver. Learning as I go. I can make
some edits in code, but can't assemble the whole page yet.

"brucie" <shit (AT) usenetshit (DOT) info> wrote

In alt.html DaKitty said:

What is the best way to handle navigation bars when making a website?
Mainly
so it doesn't have to be updated on each page individually if something
changes?

http://allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?Include_one_file_in_another

Thank You!
(I'm still having issues making it work though)