Glutton for punishment ...

On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:12:53 -0400, Ed Mullen wrote:

Seems to work as you wish in a really old konqueror 3.3.

<pedant>

It's http://edmullen.net/ , not http://edmullen.net

</pedant>

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Ed Mullen <ed (AT) edmullen (DOT) net> wrote:

Take a look at the site in my sig address. I just changed it to have
both a fixed top header and fixed footer. Tested in all major browsers
I know of and it seems to work just fine.

When paging down using the spacebar, the next section is cut off at the
top (the amount corresponds to the height of the fixed header). So on
my monitor, the first viewable section ends at the 'contact / feedback'
green header. Page down, and the next viewable section starts half way
down the photo (your head's cut off!).

Probably affects all browsers but certainly Mac Safari 3, Opera 10,
Camino 1.6.

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
I don't use CAPTCHAs either. I hate those suckers!

Me too. But it has reduced spam somewhat.

Here's another itty-bitty trick to keep the spammers away from your
form.

Typically, the spammers scour the web looking for contact forms to
exploit. Once they find one, they add the URL to their bot-sending
scripts and feed it to many/hundreds/thousands? of bots to go hit your
form. I've set all mine up thusly:

In that global include file:
$contactpage = "contact.php";

In all the places that link to the form (your menu, your footer, etc):
echo "<a href='$contactpage'>Contact Ed</a>";

If a persistent spammer finds your form and won't let go, simply change
the value in the include file to, say,
$contactpage = "aacontact.php";
then FTP in, upload the new include file, and rename the contact form
file to that new filename.

So, one variable change and one filename rename, and the spammer gets
only a 404 - which you'll never have to worry about. My sites are rarely
bothered by spammers.

Nice! Thanks.

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http://edmullen.net
If at first you don't succeed, then skydiving definitely isn't for you.

Allodoxaphobia wrote:

On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:12:53 -0400, Ed Mullen wrote:

Seems to work as you wish in a really old konqueror 3.3.

Thanks!

pedant

It's http://edmullen.net/ , not http://edmullen.net

/pedant

Well, ok. But, in what situation will that URI /not/ work?


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If at first you don't succeed, then skydiving definitely isn't for you.

j wrote:

Ed Mullen<ed (AT) edmullen (DOT) net> wrote:

Take a look at the site in my sig address. I just changed it to have
both a fixed top header and fixed footer. Tested in all major browsers
I know of and it seems to work just fine.


When paging down using the spacebar, the next section is cut off at the
top (the amount corresponds to the height of the fixed header). So on
my monitor, the first viewable section ends at the 'contact / feedback'
green header. Page down, and the next viewable section starts half way
down the photo (your head's cut off!).

Probably affects all browsers but certainly Mac Safari 3, Opera 10,
Camino 1.6.

Uh oh! You're right. I never thought to check the spacebar advance
function. Probably because I never use it in my browser, only my
email/news client. Does the same thing in all the browsers I just
tested. Crap! Another marginally interesting idea down the tubes! :-(

Thanks for this!

:-D

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http://edmullen.net
A dyslexic man walked into a bra ...

In article <37kgkq.kcl.19.2 (AT) news (DOT) alt.net>, Ed Mullen <ed (AT) edmullen (DOT) net>
wrote:

Allodoxaphobia wrote:
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:12:53 -0400, Ed Mullen wrote:

Seems to work as you wish in a really old konqueror 3.3.


Thanks!

pedant

It's http://edmullen.net/ , not http://edmullen.net

/pedant

Well, ok. But, in what situation will that URI /not/ work?

Don't you know the meaning of the pedant element?

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dorayme

dorayme wrote:

In article<37kgkq.kcl.19.2 (AT) news (DOT) alt.net>, Ed Mullen<ed (AT) edmullen (DOT) net
wrote:

Allodoxaphobia wrote:
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:12:53 -0400, Ed Mullen wrote:

Seems to work as you wish in a really old konqueror 3.3.


Thanks!

pedant

It's http://edmullen.net/ , not http://edmullen.net

/pedant

Well, ok. But, in what situation will that URI /not/ work?

Don't you know the meaning of the pedant element?

Well, in English I do understand the word. Is the element's meaning
different?

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Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net
Can fat people go skinny-dipping?

Ed Mullen wrote:

j wrote:
Ed Mullen<ed (AT) edmullen (DOT) net> wrote:

Take a look at the site in my sig address. I just changed it to have
both a fixed top header and fixed footer. Tested in all major browsers
I know of and it seems to work just fine.


When paging down using the spacebar, the next section is cut off at the
top (the amount corresponds to the height of the fixed header). So on
my monitor, the first viewable section ends at the 'contact / feedback'
green header. Page down, and the next viewable section starts half way
down the photo (your head's cut off!).

Probably affects all browsers but certainly Mac Safari 3, Opera 10,
Camino 1.6.

Uh oh! You're right. I never thought to check the spacebar advance
function. Probably because I never use it in my browser, only my
email/news client. Does the same thing in all the browsers I just
tested. Crap! Another marginally interesting idea down the tubes! :-(

Thanks for this!

:-D

BTW, same problem using the PAGE DOWN key. Sigh.

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Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net
"I'm all in favor of keeping dangerous weapons out of the hands of
fools. Let's start with typewriters." - Solomon Short

In article <37kh0n.mqk.19.1 (AT) news (DOT) alt.net>, Ed Mullen <ed (AT) edmullen (DOT) net>
wrote:

j wrote:
Ed Mullen<ed (AT) edmullen (DOT) net> wrote:

Take a look at the site in my sig address. I just changed it to have
both a fixed top header and fixed footer. Tested in all major browsers
I know of and it seems to work just fine.


When paging down using the spacebar, the next section is cut off at the
top (the amount corresponds to the height of the fixed header). So on
my monitor, the first viewable section ends at the 'contact / feedback'
green header. Page down, and the next viewable section starts half way
down the photo (your head's cut off!).

Probably affects all browsers but certainly Mac Safari 3, Opera 10,
Camino 1.6.

Uh oh! You're right. I never thought to check the spacebar advance
function. Probably because I never use it in my browser, only my
email/news client. Does the same thing in all the browsers I just
tested. Crap! Another marginally interesting idea down the tubes! :-(

Thanks for this!

Why is this so surprising to you? The cutting off is part and parcel of
your 'fixing' and what does it really matter how the scrolling or paging
down is done?

I get the feeling you don't really 'get it' about the unintuitive feel.
For example, just putting a border like all the other borders on the
footer top does not really fix the "problem" I mentioned earlier. You
would be better off considering a quite different background to the
footer area.

Ed, what is so important about your footer that it needs to be there all
the time? Everyone knows you are the man!

I don't like this new development at all! The whole world has collapsed
for me. Very very upsetting!

If you want something to fiddle with on your site, consider strategies
to make the "ed mullen" image box right at the top not be so prone to
fuzziness on the now prevalent browser zoom functions. There are various
ways to do this.

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dorayme

dorayme wrote:

In article<37kh0n.mqk.19.1 (AT) news (DOT) alt.net>, Ed Mullen<ed (AT) edmullen (DOT) net
wrote:

j wrote:
Ed Mullen<ed (AT) edmullen (DOT) net> wrote:

Take a look at the site in my sig address. I just changed it to have
both a fixed top header and fixed footer. Tested in all major browsers
I know of and it seems to work just fine.


When paging down using the spacebar, the next section is cut off at the
top (the amount corresponds to the height of the fixed header). So on
my monitor, the first viewable section ends at the 'contact / feedback'
green header. Page down, and the next viewable section starts half way
down the photo (your head's cut off!).

Probably affects all browsers but certainly Mac Safari 3, Opera 10,
Camino 1.6.

Uh oh! You're right. I never thought to check the spacebar advance
function. Probably because I never use it in my browser, only my
email/news client. Does the same thing in all the browsers I just
tested. Crap! Another marginally interesting idea down the tubes! :-(

Thanks for this!

Why is this so surprising to you?

As I said, because I had not tried it.

The cutting off is part and parcel of
your 'fixing'

How so? What in the HTML specs says so? I ask to be educated, not
rhetorically.

and what does it really matter how the scrolling or paging
down is done?

Well, how it is done might lead me to understand how to treat it and
make it behave in a way I might want it to.

I get the feeling you don't really 'get it' about the unintuitive feel.

Politely I ask: What the fuck does that mean?

For example, just putting a border like all the other borders on the
footer top

"footer top" ?

does not really fix the "problem" I mentioned earlier. You
would be better off considering a quite different background to the
footer area.

Well, that would obviate the desired effect of ... how to describe it?
.... the whole idea of the floating content area.

Think of my long-standing site design. A fixed top menu with same
border. Worked nicely, I think. And no one here yelled about it. It
was, again, I thought, a nice effect. A static background. You
scrolled. The body content slid up the top of the screen and slide
UNDER the fixed menu.

Now, even if you abhor drop-down menus, I think it was an elegant approach.

If I apply a different background to either or both of the header and/or
footer? ... Totally breaks the visual design.

Ed, what is so important about your footer that it needs to be there all
the time? Everyone knows you are the man!

As I've said elsewhere, it's just an exercise. I'm not "sold" on it.
Nor even married to it. I posted here to garner (even this one)
reactions, thoughts, suggestions and, even, rants. Thank you!

I don't like this new development at all! The whole world has collapsed
for me. Very very upsetting!

Honey? You really gotta just take it easy. Look. It's JAFWS. Or,
Just A F**** Web Site. Ya know?

If you want something to fiddle with on your site, consider strategies
to make the "ed mullen" image box right at the top not be so prone to
fuzziness on the now prevalent browser zoom functions. There are various
ways to do this.

I couldn't care less at this point. Image zoom is kinda like my fixed
footer: Something to play with but ... dear God! NO!!!


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