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Øyvind Granberg
 
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Default frames iframes and div... - 07-01-2009 , 05:30 PM






hi...
Please redirect if I'm in the wrong NG... :-)

In making a webpage frames are not recommended.
How do I get a css menu to open the target in a certain area other than
_self on the screen if I'm not to use frames?
DIV is not working because you can't name them...

Is iframes the only alternative?


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www.tresfjording.com

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C A Upsdell
 
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Default Re: frames iframes and div... - 07-01-2009 , 05:46 PM






Øyvind Granberg wrote:
Quote:
hi...
Please redirect if I'm in the wrong NG... :-)

In making a webpage frames are not recommended.
How do I get a css menu to open the target in a certain area other than
_self on the screen if I'm not to use frames?
DIV is not working because you can't name them...

Is iframes the only alternative?
It would help to know WHY you think you think that you can't simply go
to a new page when someone clicks a menu item.

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Default Re: frames iframes and div... - 07-01-2009 , 06:17 PM



You know... When you click on a menu item in the left column, the link
target will show in the middle frame.
Not on another page.. hhehe..

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Quote:
Øyvind Granberg wrote:
hi...
Please redirect if I'm in the wrong NG... :-)

In making a webpage frames are not recommended.
How do I get a css menu to open the target in a certain area other than
_self on the screen if I'm not to use frames?
DIV is not working because you can't name them...

Is iframes the only alternative?

It would help to know WHY you think you think that you can't simply go to
a new page when someone clicks a menu item.

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C A Upsdell
 
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Default Re: frames iframes and div... - 07-01-2009 , 07:07 PM



Øyvind Granberg wrote:
Quote:
You know... When you click on a menu item in the left column, the link
target will show in the middle frame.
Not on another page.. hhehe..
And why not on another page? Is it impossible for you to replicate the
menu and other unchanging content on multiple pages?

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dorayme
 
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Default Re: frames iframes and div... - 07-01-2009 , 07:32 PM



In article <4a4bd568 (AT) news (DOT) broadpark.no>,
Øyvind Granberg <tresfjording (AT) live (DOT) no> wrote:

Quote:
hi...
Please redirect if I'm in the wrong NG... :-)

In making a webpage frames are not recommended.
How do I get a css menu to open the target in a certain area other than
_self on the screen if I'm not to use frames?
DIV is not working because you can't name them...

Is iframes the only alternative?
What do you mean about DIVS not working because you can't name them? You
can give them an ID.

See if any of these help you or give you an idea:

<http://dorayme.netweaver.com.au/pseudoFrameLeftCol.html>

<http://dorayme.netweaver.com.au/pseudoFrameLeftCol1.html>

<http://dorayme.netweaver.com.au/pseudoFrameLeftCol2.html>

I have forgotten the difference between them but will look if you cannot
tell.

If you don't like them, you can use frames or iFrames and I will ride
shotgun on your coach as you go through all the frames-hating (and
shootin') little towns in the wild west... I will bring modern bullet
proof vests, and maybe an extra weapon like a grenade launcher to
quieten the bigger towns down...

But don't get the idea I come cheap.

--
dorayme

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Øyvind Granberg
 
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Default Re: frames iframes and div... - 07-01-2009 , 07:54 PM



My menus are changing. I add items to my site nearly every day and then I
need to put that new page somewhere in the menu. Having dozens of pages with
a menu that has to be edited is a litte troublesome.
If you visit my website www.tresfjording.com you'll see a menu to the left,
and a mainframe in the middle showing whatever you choose from the menu.



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Kind regards
Øyvind Granberg

tresfjording (AT) live (DOT) no


"C A Upsdell" <cupsdell (AT) nospam (DOT) not> skrev i nyhetsmeldingen:
h2gqdo$fk3$1 (AT) news (DOT) eternal-september.org ...
Quote:
Øyvind Granberg wrote:
You know... When you click on a menu item in the left column, the link
target will show in the middle frame.
Not on another page.. hhehe..

And why not on another page? Is it impossible for you to replicate the
menu and other unchanging content on multiple pages?


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Øyvind Granberg
 
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Default Re: frames iframes and div... - 07-01-2009 , 07:56 PM



This is a nice css menu, and it works fone, exept that it has to be situated
in every page, instead of one.
One page with one menu to edit.
Much easier.
Why give your DIVs an id if you don't use that in your code?

--

Kind regards
Øyvind Granberg

tresfjording (AT) live (DOT) no
www.tresfjording.com

"dorayme" <doraymeRidThis (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> skrev i nyhetsmeldingen:
doraymeRidThis-67A8CD.09321702072009...) albasani.net ...
Quote:
In article <4a4bd568 (AT) news (DOT) broadpark.no>,
Øyvind Granberg <tresfjording (AT) live (DOT) no> wrote:

hi...
Please redirect if I'm in the wrong NG... :-)

In making a webpage frames are not recommended.
How do I get a css menu to open the target in a certain area other than
_self on the screen if I'm not to use frames?
DIV is not working because you can't name them...

Is iframes the only alternative?

What do you mean about DIVS not working because you can't name them? You
can give them an ID.

See if any of these help you or give you an idea:

http://dorayme.netweaver.com.au/pseudoFrameLeftCol.html

http://dorayme.netweaver.com.au/pseudoFrameLeftCol1.html

http://dorayme.netweaver.com.au/pseudoFrameLeftCol2.html

I have forgotten the difference between them but will look if you cannot
tell.

If you don't like them, you can use frames or iFrames and I will ride
shotgun on your coach as you go through all the frames-hating (and
shootin') little towns in the wild west... I will bring modern bullet
proof vests, and maybe an extra weapon like a grenade launcher to
quieten the bigger towns down...

But don't get the idea I come cheap.

--
dorayme

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Øyvind Granberg
 
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Default Re: frames iframes and div... - 07-01-2009 , 08:03 PM



I mean; You can give a DIV an id, but you can't use that id in the target
parameter in a href function. It won't work.
For that to happen you need to use frames or iframes... don't you?
Or is there another solution?


--

Kind regards
Øyvind Granberg

tresfjording (AT) live (DOT) no
www.tresfjording.com

"Øyvind Granberg" <tresfjording (AT) live (DOT) no> skrev i nyhetsmeldingen:
4a4bf7cd$1 (AT) news (DOT) broadpark.no ...
Quote:
This is a nice css menu, and it works fone, exept that it has to be
situated in every page, instead of one.
One page with one menu to edit.
Much easier.
Why give your DIVs an id if you don't use that in your code?

--

Kind regards
Øyvind Granberg

tresfjording (AT) live (DOT) no
www.tresfjording.com

"dorayme" <doraymeRidThis (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> skrev i nyhetsmeldingen:
doraymeRidThis-67A8CD.09321702072009...) albasani.net ...
In article <4a4bd568 (AT) news (DOT) broadpark.no>,
Øyvind Granberg <tresfjording (AT) live (DOT) no> wrote:

hi...
Please redirect if I'm in the wrong NG... :-)

In making a webpage frames are not recommended.
How do I get a css menu to open the target in a certain area other than
_self on the screen if I'm not to use frames?
DIV is not working because you can't name them...

Is iframes the only alternative?

What do you mean about DIVS not working because you can't name them? You
can give them an ID.

See if any of these help you or give you an idea:

http://dorayme.netweaver.com.au/pseudoFrameLeftCol.html

http://dorayme.netweaver.com.au/pseudoFrameLeftCol1.html

http://dorayme.netweaver.com.au/pseudoFrameLeftCol2.html

I have forgotten the difference between them but will look if you cannot
tell.

If you don't like them, you can use frames or iFrames and I will ride
shotgun on your coach as you go through all the frames-hating (and
shootin') little towns in the wild west... I will bring modern bullet
proof vests, and maybe an extra weapon like a grenade launcher to
quieten the bigger towns down...

But don't get the idea I come cheap.

--
dorayme

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Øyvind Granberg
 
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Default Re: frames iframes and div... - 07-01-2009 , 08:11 PM



I found this: http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex17/ajaxcontent.htm
Is this better html than frames....?
Is this looking nice in all modern browsers?

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Kind regards
Øyvind Granberg

tresfjording (AT) live (DOT) no
www.tresfjording.com

"Øyvind Granberg" <tresfjording (AT) live (DOT) no> skrev i nyhetsmeldingen:
4a4bf7cd$1 (AT) news (DOT) broadpark.no ...
Quote:
This is a nice css menu, and it works fone, exept that it has to be
situated in every page, instead of one.
One page with one menu to edit.
Much easier.
Why give your DIVs an id if you don't use that in your code?

--

Kind regards
Øyvind Granberg

tresfjording (AT) live (DOT) no
www.tresfjording.com

"dorayme" <doraymeRidThis (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> skrev i nyhetsmeldingen:
doraymeRidThis-67A8CD.09321702072009...) albasani.net ...
In article <4a4bd568 (AT) news (DOT) broadpark.no>,
Øyvind Granberg <tresfjording (AT) live (DOT) no> wrote:

hi...
Please redirect if I'm in the wrong NG... :-)

In making a webpage frames are not recommended.
How do I get a css menu to open the target in a certain area other than
_self on the screen if I'm not to use frames?
DIV is not working because you can't name them...

Is iframes the only alternative?

What do you mean about DIVS not working because you can't name them? You
can give them an ID.

See if any of these help you or give you an idea:

http://dorayme.netweaver.com.au/pseudoFrameLeftCol.html

http://dorayme.netweaver.com.au/pseudoFrameLeftCol1.html

http://dorayme.netweaver.com.au/pseudoFrameLeftCol2.html

I have forgotten the difference between them but will look if you cannot
tell.

If you don't like them, you can use frames or iFrames and I will ride
shotgun on your coach as you go through all the frames-hating (and
shootin') little towns in the wild west... I will bring modern bullet
proof vests, and maybe an extra weapon like a grenade launcher to
quieten the bigger towns down...

But don't get the idea I come cheap.

--
dorayme

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C A Upsdell
 
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Default Re: frames iframes and div... - 07-01-2009 , 08:11 PM



Øyvind Granberg wrote:
Quote:
My menus are changing. I add items to my site nearly every day and then
I need to put that new page somewhere in the menu. Having dozens of
pages with a menu that has to be edited is a litte troublesome.
If you visit my website www.tresfjording.com you'll see a menu to the
left, and a mainframe in the middle showing whatever you choose from the
menu.
You should give a free magnifying glass to each of your visitors. The
menu and masthead font size is so small as to be unreadable: only 9px
high for characters with descenders!

As for the menu changing frequently: if you use a text editor, does it
not have a global search and replace function? Or if your host supports
server side includes, you can put the menu in one file and have it
included on all pages. I have sites with hundreds of pages, and I have
no difficulty updating changing menus.

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