html newbie

Hi I am trying to teach myself HTML so I've joined this news group. First
question is how do I download newsgroup messages for offline viewing? I've
read a few books on HTML and web design so far. Was just wondering what most
people use as an HTML editor. Notepad, dreamweaver, FrontPage etc. I'm
currently using notepad. Don't know if that makes me a dinosaur or not. Was
told that when learning HTML you should start with notepad to get a good
understanding of it. Does anyone know if there are many web designers using
Linux as their OS?

My current home page is http://www.ccountry.net/~waxman/

Thanks for any help...

Greg wrote:

Hi I am trying to teach myself HTML so I've joined this news group.

This gets a little quiet at times. You might want to subscribe to
alt.html.critique in addition. Being a lot busier, it has many experts
and professionals who are willing to help.

First question is how do I download newsgroup messages for offline viewing?

That depends on what you're using to read these newsgroups.

I've read a few books on HTML and web design so far.

If you don't already know about them, I recommend you take a look at:

http://www.w3schools.com for learning the languages involved in web design;

http://www.alistapart.com for weekly articles on developer techniques; and

http://www.csszengarden.com/ for great examples of good style *and* good
coding.

Was just wondering what most people use as an HTML editor.

I just use a simple text editor (with syntax highlighting).

Notepad, dreamweaver, FrontPage etc.

Frontpage? Bleh. Avoid it at all costs if you really want to learn web
development.

Many use dreamweaver but I find it a little lacking in versatility
(unless it's just used as a simple text editor ).

I'm currently using notepad. Don't know if that makes me a dinosaur or not.

Not at all. However, I do recommend you get an editor with syntax
highlighting. This will colour the code (depending on it's function) and
will greatly ease its reading.

Was told that when learning HTML you should start with notepad to get a
good understanding of it.

Good advice.

Does anyone know if there are many web designers using Linux as their OS?

Most professionals use the Mac platform, simply because that's what
they're used to (from the old printwork days).

Having said that, there's a growing number using Linux (including me).
It's progressed a lot in recent years and is now quite viable as a
platform for web design and development, however you still need to be
more technical than the average Mac user.

Hth,
--
Ben M.

Thanks for the good advice
"Ben Measures" <saint_abroadremove (AT) removehotmail (DOT) com> wrote

Greg wrote:
Hi I am trying to teach myself HTML so I've joined this news group.

This gets a little quiet at times. You might want to subscribe to
alt.html.critique in addition. Being a lot busier, it has many experts
and professionals who are willing to help.

First question is how do I download newsgroup messages for offline
viewing?

That depends on what you're using to read these newsgroups.

I've read a few books on HTML and web design so far.

If you don't already know about them, I recommend you take a look at:

http://www.w3schools.com for learning the languages involved in web
design;

http://www.alistapart.com for weekly articles on developer techniques; and

http://www.csszengarden.com/ for great examples of good style *and* good
coding.

Was just wondering what most people use as an HTML editor.

I just use a simple text editor (with syntax highlighting).

Notepad, dreamweaver, FrontPage etc.

Frontpage? Bleh. Avoid it at all costs if you really want to learn web
development.

Many use dreamweaver but I find it a little lacking in versatility
(unless it's just used as a simple text editor ).

I'm currently using notepad. Don't know if that makes me a dinosaur or
not.

Not at all. However, I do recommend you get an editor with syntax
highlighting. This will colour the code (depending on it's function) and
will greatly ease its reading.

Was told that when learning HTML you should start with notepad to get a
good understanding of it.

Good advice.

Does anyone know if there are many web designers using Linux as their
OS?

Most professionals use the Mac platform, simply because that's what
they're used to (from the old printwork days).

Having said that, there's a growing number using Linux (including me).
It's progressed a lot in recent years and is now quite viable as a
platform for web design and development, however you still need to be
more technical than the average Mac user.

Hth,
--
Ben M.

"Greg" <gregrmackay (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

Hi I am trying to teach myself HTML so I've joined this news group. First

Hi Greg,

you could also try alt.html. A bit busy at times, but a valuable resource

question is how do I download newsgroup messages for offline viewing? I've
read a few books on HTML and web design so far. Was just wondering what
most
people use as an HTML editor. Notepad, dreamweaver, FrontPage etc. I'm
currently using notepad. Don't know if that makes me a dinosaur or not.
Was
told that when learning HTML you should start with notepad to get a good
understanding of it. Does anyone know if there are many web designers
using
Linux as their OS?

OK, so, as has been said, there are many resources for HTML on the web. The
bottom line is that you should keep looking around, but realise that there
are probably about as many good sites as bad ones (prolly more bad ones than
good ones).

I am in the process of develping a site with good information on it (at
least I think it is good information - it will follow the guidelines set by
the W3C, and the spirit of HTML and CSS). Once I have finished it, I will
post for other people's comments.

As for the editor. I use CorelDRAW for Graphics, and a freeware editor
called "Context". I have also used a program called NotePad+ and EditPlus.
All of these have served me well. Bottom line (as Ben mentioned) is that you
will definitely benefit from a syntax-highlighting editor - especially if
you decide to go into script writing (PHP, or similar). The principle is the
same, however, if you can build webpages with a text editor, you can do most
of what you need to do.

As for Windows/Mac/Linux, I have used Windows and Linux. Due to other needs
I have on my system, I use Windows almost exclusively, however I loved the
Linux development model. QuantaPLUS (part of hte KDE package) is a great
HTML editor, and I must say that I miss it quite a bit.

Ultimately, you need to chose a platform that you are comfortable with
(since I use CorelDRAW, I cannot use Linux for graphics), and enjoy the
development. bear in mind that while you will develop in your OS of choice,
your pages will be viewed in the viewer's OS of choice...

Hope this helps.

David

My current home page is http://www.ccountry.net/~waxman/

Thanks for any help...

Greg wrote:

Thanks for the good advice
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Greg wrote:

Hi I am trying to teach myself HTML so I've joined this news group.

This gets a little quiet at times. You might want to subscribe to
alt.html.critique in addition. Being a lot busier, it has many experts
and professionals who are willing to help.


First question is how do I download newsgroup messages for offline

viewing?

That depends on what you're using to read these newsgroups.


I've read a few books on HTML and web design so far.

If you don't already know about them, I recommend you take a look at:

http://www.w3schools.com for learning the languages involved in web

design;

http://www.alistapart.com for weekly articles on developer techniques; and

http://www.csszengarden.com/ for great examples of good style *and* good
coding.


Was just wondering what most people use as an HTML editor.

I just use a simple text editor (with syntax highlighting).


Notepad, dreamweaver, FrontPage etc.

Frontpage? Bleh. Avoid it at all costs if you really want to learn web
development.

Many use dreamweaver but I find it a little lacking in versatility
(unless it's just used as a simple text editor ).


I'm currently using notepad. Don't know if that makes me a dinosaur or

not.

Not at all. However, I do recommend you get an editor with syntax
highlighting. This will colour the code (depending on it's function) and
will greatly ease its reading.


Was told that when learning HTML you should start with notepad to get a
good understanding of it.

Good advice.


Does anyone know if there are many web designers using Linux as their

OS?

Most professionals use the Mac platform, simply because that's what
they're used to (from the old printwork days).

Having said that, there's a growing number using Linux (including me).
It's progressed a lot in recent years and is now quite viable as a
platform for web design and development, however you still need to be
more technical than the average Mac user.

Hth,
--
Ben M.



Dreamweaver is pretty good, bloody expensive now that it comes with the

kitchen sink and all.
If you use dreamweaver right, you need no other program all the ftp, css
blah blah is all there and it keeps your links all tick-a-d-boo; That
said try HTMLKit, which lacks the wysiwig but thats no big deal, as you
will soon learn

On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 15:08:00 -0800, Greg wrote:

Hi I am trying to teach myself HTML so I've joined this news group. First
question is how do I download newsgroup messages for offline viewing? I've
read a few books on HTML and web design so far. Was just wondering what most
people use as an HTML editor. Notepad, dreamweaver, FrontPage etc. I'm
currently using notepad. Don't know if that makes me a dinosaur or not. Was
told that when learning HTML you should start with notepad to get a good
understanding of it. Does anyone know if there are many web designers using
Linux as their OS?

My current home page is http://www.ccountry.net/~waxman/

I'm sort of a newb myself and I use Linux Mandrake 10.0.
Most HTML editors seemed to make extra code and such. I mean, I could do
that myself. And still do.
But there is a Suped-up notepad editor called Kate that I use now that
comes with the OS. It has syntax hi-lighting when you give a text file an
html extension. If I run into a problem I hunt around the net for
resources, read the newsgroups and such.
As for a newsreader I use Pan and it does collect message
bodies for off-line use.
HTH

--
°¿°
http://www.earths-ocular.com/
Registered Linux User: 347957

Greg wrote:

Hi I am trying to teach myself HTML so I've joined this news group. First
question is how do I download newsgroup messages for offline viewing? I've
read a few books on HTML and web design so far. Was just wondering what most
people use as an HTML editor. Notepad, dreamweaver, FrontPage etc. I'm
currently using notepad. Don't know if that makes me a dinosaur or not. Was
told that when learning HTML you should start with notepad to get a good
understanding of it. Does anyone know if there are many web designers using
Linux as their OS?

My current home page is http://www.ccountry.net/~waxman/

Thanks for any help...

In Linux, you might want to give Bluefish a look. Not available on

Windows, it's my favorite editor.

Bill
--
Make yourself an honest man, and then you may be sure that there is one
rascal less in the world.
Thomas Carlyle (1795 - 1881)
http://nmwoodworks.com


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