An observation about the group

This group doesnt seem to have much of a community to it that I can see. I
don't know any of the other regulars here. So, let me introduce myself.
My name is Bryan (or Saber if OE isn't cooperating). I used to go by Saber,
but decided to post with my real name on usenet.
I have basically taught myself HTML on my own. I took a class last year in
high school, but, well, I ended up teaching the teacher... about every
topic. Not something that should happen, although my teaching myself on my
own effected this, he still should have known it.
I have the basics of CSS down, and will expand upon it when my courses
lighten up.
JavaScript is.. well... eh. I started to teach myself it, so I know a
little, but I'm no where as good as I would like to be. I figure that will
come after CSS. (I can learn more than one language at once, but I'm a
comp. sci. major, and learning Java now. So, learning JS after this
semester is over shouldn't be a huge stretch.)
As for XML, well, I can recognize it, but that's about it. That one I will
learn... eventually. No big hurry on this one.
HTML is my forte. I would say I'm advanced with it (or at least I am
according to the course description of Advanced HTML, I know just about all
the topics mentioned). I am good with frames and tables. All of my sites
are set up with tables now. Most pages have embedded tables within embedded
tables (not that hard, but it sounds impressive).
I plan on starting up a web design business fairly soon. Nothing big, just
for some money on the side, school is my #1 priority.

Well, that's all I can think of right now about me that pertinent to the
group here. Anyone else wanna introduce themselves?

--
Bryan
My Site: www.saber-online.com

Bryan wrote:

HTML is my forte. I would say I'm advanced with it (or at least I am
according to the course description of Advanced HTML, I know just about all
the topics mentioned). I am good with frames and tables. All of my sites
are set up with tables now.

As often happens in secondary education, the cirriculum
you describe appears several years old. This is fine for
some subjects, but HTML is a fast moving target.

You link in a stylesheet, but mix in markup like this:
<font size="4" face="Garamond, Times New Roman, Arial">
that should be in the stylesheet. And look at this:

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=ht...line&verbose=1

Most pages have embedded tables within embedded
tables (not that hard, but it sounds impressive).

Not impressive. It's time to study contemporary
markup.

It looks like you have the background
to pick all this stuff
up fairly quickly. Try some readings at:

http://www.realworldstyle.com/
http://www.nypl.org/styleguide/
http://www.alistapart.com/
http://www.w3.org/

--
Cheers, m

In article <6gOdnaY_vb7wuwuiXTWJkQ (AT) giganews (DOT) com>, saber1
@IEATSPAMMERSoptonline.net says...

This group doesnt seem to have much of a community to it that I can see. I
don't know any of the other regulars here.

There aren't any! Try alt.html instead.


--
Hywel I do not eat quiche
http://hyweljenkins.co.uk/
http://hyweljenkins.co.uk/mfaq.php

Bryan pounced upon this pigeonhole and pronounced:

HTML is my forte.

You need some practice with your design skills, though. :-)

Bryan
My Site: www.saber-online.com

body { ...
font-size: xx-large;
text-decoration: underline;}

Please change the xx-large to 100% and remove the underline. I doubt if
anyone wants to read an entire site consisting of underlined text.
Extremely difficult to read.

Once you've removed the xx-large, go to the rest of your styles and set
headings and perhaps copyrights to a somewhat larger or smaller
percentage. For ex:

h1 { font-size: 150%;}
h2 { font-size: 135%;}
..copyright { font-size: 90%; }

Well, hmm, you don't _have_ any headings.

Try this as well. See your accessibility problems.
<http://www.delorie.com/web/lynxview....F%2Fwww.saber-
online.com%2Findex1.html>

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-bts
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"m" <NOXwebmasterx (AT) xmbstevensx (DOT) com> wrote

Bryan wrote:

HTML is my forte. I would say I'm advanced with it (or at least I am
according to the course description of Advanced HTML, I know just about
all
the topics mentioned). I am good with frames and tables. All of my
sites
are set up with tables now.

As often happens in secondary education, the cirriculum
you describe appears several years old. This is fine for
some subjects, but HTML is a fast moving target.

Most of my knowledge doesn't come from the curriculum, but from web sites
such as www.htmlgoodies.com and www.w3.org. I know HTML Goodies can be a
bit out dated with some things, but W3C shouldn't be.

You link in a stylesheet, but mix in markup like this:
font size="4" face="Garamond, Times New Roman, Arial"
that should be in the stylesheet. And look at this:

My site was just switched over to CSS as I learned it just recently. I
might not have taken all of the font tags out.

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=ht...e.com%2Findex1

..html&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype= Inline&verbose=1

The validation of index1.html... The top errors are because I used
Dreamweaver to make the flash a while ago and had it create a page with them
(I used frames at the time). When I switched over to tables, I basically
just copied and pasted them.
The alt tag, I know about. I had just forgotten. When I update my site
next, that will be fixed.
I wasn't aware of the problem with the color attribute for the HR tags, I
guess I have to switch that over to CSS.
That last bit are errors because of my counter. W3C doesn't like the code
Bravenet makes. I'm using Bravenet because my old host didn't have CGI
scripts for counters, my new one does though, so I will switch over to it
shortly.

Most pages have embedded tables within embedded
tables (not that hard, but it sounds impressive).

Not impressive. It's time to study contemporary
markup.

I said that as a joke. But anyways, I am. My last update was mainly for
the Diablo II section of my page. I made up a style sheet for the Main part
and included a link to that in the pages, but didn't concentrate too much on
getting them to be perfect. When I update again, I will have fixed all the
code errors.
Oh, and for better compatibility, not having only CSS enables others with
out-dated browsers (or some new ones) to view the site as it should be.
Well, more as it should be.

It looks like you have the background
to pick all this stuff
up fairly quickly. Try some readings at:

http://www.realworldstyle.com/
http://www.nypl.org/styleguide/
http://www.alistapart.com/
http://www.w3.org/

Didn't know about the top 3 links, I'll have to check them out. More
sources of info is always good.

--
Bryan
My Site: www.saber-online.com

"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.nous (AT) example (DOT) invalid> wrote

Bryan pounced upon this pigeonhole and pronounced:

HTML is my forte.

You need some practice with your design skills, though. :-)

Hey, I don't know everything. I may claim to sometimes, but I lie.
Besides, you mainly pointed out CSS errors, not HTML.

Bryan
My Site: www.saber-online.com

body { ...
font-size: xx-large;
text-decoration: underline;}

Please change the xx-large to 100% and remove the underline. I doubt if
anyone wants to read an entire site consisting of underlined text.
Extremely difficult to read.

Yea... um... not sure how that got there. I must have meant the underline
for something else.

Once you've removed the xx-large, go to the rest of your styles and set
headings and perhaps copyrights to a somewhat larger or smaller
percentage. For ex:

h1 { font-size: 150%;}
h2 { font-size: 135%;}
.copyright { font-size: 90%; }

Thanks for the suggestion. I'll try that.

Well, hmm, you don't _have_ any headings.

Yea, as I said in my reply to m, I didn't do much to the main part. I had
added in the picture, taking out the heading. But, I didn't add another
heading.

Try this as well. See your accessibility problems.
http://www.delorie.com/web/lynxview....F%2Fwww.saber-
online.com%2Findex1.html

I'm aware of the flash issue. I didn't create those swfs, Dreamweaver did,
so I can't have the picture substitute (well, I might be able to, but I
don't know how). That still won't help when in lynx though. Wish there was
a <noflash> tag, like there is a <noscript>. If there is, well, then I feel
stupid.

So, when I get around to working on the site again, all the stuff you
mentioned will be fixed.

--
Bryan
My Site: www.saber-online.com

Gazing into my crystal ball I observed "Bryan"
<saber1 (AT) IEATSPAMMERSoptonline (DOT) net> writing in
news:_I6dncXZIZPBWguiU-KYgw (AT) giganews (DOT) com:

I'm aware of the flash issue. I didn't create those swfs, Dreamweaver
did, so I can't have the picture substitute (well, I might be able to,
but I don't know how). That still won't help when in lynx though.
Wish there was a <noflash> tag, like there is a <noscript>. If there
is, well, then I feel stupid.

<object>
Fall back stuff goes just before the closing object element.
</object>

--
Adrienne Boswell
Please respond to the group so others can share
http://www.arbpen.com