DHTML Software

On Jul 9, 8:50*pm, Ed Mullen <e... (AT) edmullen (DOT) net> wrote:

Please don't ask for sex... Please don't ask for sex...
Phew....
And, thank you, Travis! *You really had me terribly worried there for a
few seconds. *Geez, thank heavens for that speed reading course back in
the 60s.

I have a huge void starting in 1970 when someone passed me a blunt. I
woke up 11 years later standing at the alter getting married. (and in
case my wife reads this, it has been bliss ever since...)

On 10 Jul 2008, Travis Newbury <travisnewbury (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

On Jul 9, 8:50*pm, Ed Mullen <e... (AT) edmullen (DOT) net> wrote:
Please don't ask for sex... Please don't ask for sex...
Phew....
And, thank you, Travis! *You really had me terribly worried there for a
few seconds. *Geez, thank heavens for that speed reading course back in
the 60s.

I have a huge void starting in 1970 when someone passed me a blunt. I
woke up 11 years later standing at the alter getting married. (and in
case my wife reads this, it has been bliss ever since...)

How ironic. My void didn't begin until I got married.

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Sherman Pendley wrote:

Guy Macon <http://www.GuyMacon.com/> writes:

mab464 wrote:

Whats the best softwrare to create DHTML pages. commercial and non
commercial (freeware).

If you are using Windows, the best software to create DHTML
pages is NotePad. If you are using Linux, Pico.

And for the Mac - BBEdit. It doesn't suck.

So that I can make a good recomendation for the mac next time,
what is the simplest text editor with the fewest features on
the newer models?

For someone just starting out in creating web pages, I always
advise the simplest possible plain text editor. Later, they
can move to a better text eitor (UltraEdit on Windows, Vim and
EMACS on Linux/BSD are good choices), and after that they can
even move to a WYSIWYG HTML editor, but starting with the plain
text editor is important for learning. You don't learn how to
design and build cas by buying and driving a Subaru or Honda.

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In article <v7CdnSQRK9vcvevVRVn_vwA (AT) giganews (DOT) com>,
Guy Macon <http://www.GuyMacon.com/> wrote:

Sherman Pendley wrote:

Guy Macon <http://www.GuyMacon.com/> writes:

mab464 wrote:

Whats the best softwrare to create DHTML pages. commercial and non
commercial (freeware).

If you are using Windows, the best software to create DHTML
pages is NotePad. If you are using Linux, Pico.

And for the Mac - BBEdit. It doesn't suck.

So that I can make a good recomendation for the mac next time,
what is the simplest text editor with the fewest features on
the newer models?

TextWrangler (most of BBEdit's features) is free for the Mac. I've never
seen any need to use anything else.

Bergamot wrote:

Guy Macon wrote:

If you are using Windows, the best softwrare to create DHTML
pages is NotePad.

Notepad sucks.

There are far, far better tools out there, many of which are free. Lists
of good editors come up in these groups often enough it should only take
a few seconds to find them in the group archives.

Those tools are far better *after* you learn the basics of creating
a page by hand. If you use a better tool from the start, it hurts
the learning process. The best tool when starting is a simple text
editor that has the following features and no others:

New
Open
Save
Insert Mode
Overstrike Mode
Cut
Copy
Paste
Search and Replace
Wordwarp on/off

Even Notepad is slightly more full featured than I like.
I would prefer that the user be forced to format his
time/date entries by hand.

Once the new user knows how to close his tags, create
his tables, forms, and links, etc. by hand, *then* he
should look into tools that automate those tasks.
Not before.


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Bergamot wrote:

The only reason to recommend Notepad as a development tool is because
it's free.

That's not true. I recommend Notepad as a development tool
for beginners because it makes them learn by not doing things
for them.

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Guy Macon
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Guy Macon <http://www.GuyMacon.com/> writes:

Sherman Pendley wrote:

Guy Macon <http://www.GuyMacon.com/> writes:

mab464 wrote:

Whats the best softwrare to create DHTML pages. commercial and non
commercial (freeware).

If you are using Windows, the best software to create DHTML
pages is NotePad. If you are using Linux, Pico.

And for the Mac - BBEdit. It doesn't suck.

So that I can make a good recomendation for the mac next time,
what is the simplest text editor with the fewest features on
the newer models?

Mac OS X ships with TextEdit, which is similar to Windows' WordPad in
capabilities. It's able to handle simple formatting, and reads and
writes both Word and RTF formats as well as plain text.

BBEdit's little brother is TextWrangler - it's basically BBEdit
without the "markup" menu and related tools, and it's a free
download from <http://www.barebones.com>.

For someone just starting out in creating web pages, I always
advise the simplest possible plain text editor. Later, they
can move to a better text eitor (UltraEdit on Windows, Vim and
EMACS on Linux/BSD are good choices), and after that they can
even move to a WYSIWYG HTML editor, but starting with the plain
text editor is important for learning.

Completely agreed - BBEdit *is* a plain text editor. :-)

Well, it's a text editor anyway. Maybe not so plain. It's pretty
feature-rich in fact. But it's definitely not WYSIWYG - its features
are all code-oriented. (Syntax coloring and indenting, regex-based
search and replace, code folding, etc.)

sherm--

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On Jul 10, 10:56*am, Guy Macon <http://www.GuyMacon.com/> wrote:

Even Notepad is slightly more full featured than I like.
I would prefer that the user be forced to format his
time/date entries by hand.

What a retarded statement. Why not just make them use charred stick
and a piece of animal hide.

On 10 Jul 2008, Guy Macon <http://www.GuyMacon.com/> wrote:

For someone just starting out in creating web pages, I always
advise the simplest possible plain text editor. Later, they
can move to a better text eitor (UltraEdit on Windows, Vim and
EMACS on Linux/BSD are good choices), and after that they can
even move to a WYSIWYG HTML editor, but starting with the plain
text editor is important for learning. You don't learn how to
design and build cas by buying and driving a Subaru or Honda.

Wow, which text editor does that!??

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On 10 Jul 2008, Travis Newbury <travisnewbury (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

On Jul 10, 10:56*am, Guy Macon <http://www.GuyMacon.com/> wrote:
Even Notepad is slightly more full featured than I like.
I would prefer that the user be forced to format his
time/date entries by hand.

What a retarded statement. Why not just make them use charred stick
and a piece of animal hide.

'Cause the font-size would tend to be non-uniform.

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Neredbojias
http://www.neredbojias.net/
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